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Hunting with a Harris Hawk?

 
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Blinkers



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Hunting with a Harris Hawk? Reply with quote

Does anyone on the forum do this?   I spent the best day (on a very special birthday - last year) flying raptors.....but the best was going walk about through the woods and hunting with a pair of Harris Hawks.  Absolutely loved it and would like to have another go.  Anyone in South  West Wales fly 'em?   :q19:
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Gareth



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't got a Harris.

But I do hunt with a Red Tail Hawk. Although this season has been a total loss.

First the Avian Flu restrictions here in Norfolk, then dislocating my knee and being off my pins for  the best part of 5 weeks, followed by My Male pairing up wth my mates female.
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Blinkers



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, sorry to hear of your injury but WOW, a Red Tailed Hawk!   Any pics?
I was green with envy last evening watching Johnny Kingdom get the chance to fly a Golden Eagle  :smt103 ....how wonderful...would love that.   :q33:

Anyone else got any Hawks?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting another Harris soon, I had a male and a Musket .


Flying a Goldie isn't fun!!! It's a lot of hard work and you risk having your face ripped off every 5 minutes!!
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Blinkers



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:smt103  :smt103    maybe leave that for a while then...... hunting.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably best to work up to a Goldie.  Harris hawks are easy and good fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and more my size to manage  rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We both fly HHs along with a couple of falcons and some owls, the owls are just for fun, but the HHs and the falcons are hunting birds - will be adding a Gos to the mix this season too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just been looking at your website Mike and I have to admit to being rather envious
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeeharr wrote:
Probably best to work up to a Goldie.  Harris hawks are easy and good fun.


Hi without wanting to sound to brash, that's quite a naive statement.  Yes the HH is quite a forgiving bird, which is probably actually their biggest downfall, as they are "easier" to actually mess up.  A good HH will perform extremely well in the field and take a huge range of quarry, they will fly from the first, follow on or Soar.

A poor HH will not be up to much at all, you really need to fly your hawk EVERY single day to get the best out of them, they need to be fit to get the best out of them, so those left all week and flown at the weekends will never perform to their full potential.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naiive? Hardly. I've flown BoP for a number of years, not just HH, but Spars, Gos's, hybrids etc. A lot of falconers and austringers try to surround their hobby with a great air of mystery and make it into a magical craft. It isn't, I agree it isn't for everyone and people should be aware that BoP take up a great deal of time, but trying to put people off keeping them by taking a sangtimonious attitude is only detrimental to the continuation of the sport.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know nothing about the subject, but its nice to see you back in circulation Yeerhar
In an attempt to pour oil on sightly troubled water, I'm sure that both parties have valid points to make on the sport, I only ask that you discuss it like mates rather than competitors. :-)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeehaar,

maybe Naive was the wrong word to use.

I am sure you will agree that with your experience, especially flying accipitors, that the HH is its worse enemy.

To get the very best out of them, you really do need to put an awful lot of time and effort in to them to maximise their potential.

Far better a bird for a beginner who has a suitable mentor would be a Red Tail, they are far less forgiving and will teach a novice far more about management of a BoP than the forgiving HH.

It is I am sure you will agree, quite sad to see frequently the number of HHs being flown to a very poor standard.

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