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Blinkers
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 81
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: Hunting with a Harris Hawk? |
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| Does anyone on the forum do this? I spent the best day (on a very special birthday - last year) flying raptors.....but the best was going walk about through the woods and hunting with a pair of Harris Hawks. Absolutely loved it and would like to have another go. Anyone in South West Wales fly 'em? :q19: |
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Gareth

Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2200 Location: Catton Grove, Norwich, Norfolk, UK.
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't got a Harris.
But I do hunt with a Red Tail Hawk. Although this season has been a total loss.
First the Avian Flu restrictions here in Norfolk, then dislocating my knee and being off my pins for the best part of 5 weeks, followed by My Male pairing up wth my mates female. _________________ The OTG sponsored Coracle http://overthegate.myfreeforum.org/about8993.html&highlight=
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Blinkers
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Oh, sorry to hear of your injury but WOW, a Red Tailed Hawk! Any pics?
I was green with envy last evening watching Johnny Kingdom get the chance to fly a Golden Eagle :smt103 ....how wonderful...would love that. :q33:
Anyone else got any Hawks?
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yeeharr

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 671 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm getting another Harris soon, I had a male and a Musket .
Flying a Goldie isn't fun!!! It's a lot of hard work and you risk having your face ripped off every 5 minutes!! |
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Blinkers
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| :smt103 :smt103 maybe leave that for a while then...... hunting.gif |
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yeeharr

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 671 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Probably best to work up to a Goldie. Harris hawks are easy and good fun. |
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Blinkers
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, and more my size to manage rolleyes.gif |
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MiLisCer
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: |
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We both fly HHs along with a couple of falcons and some owls, the owls are just for fun, but the HHs and the falcons are hunting birds - will be adding a Gos to the mix this season too.
Mike _________________ www.miliscer.co.uk
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random

Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 35 Location: Skåne, Southern Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| just been looking at your website Mike and I have to admit to being rather envious |
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MiLisCer
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| yeeharr wrote: | Probably best to work up to a Goldie. Harris hawks are easy and good fun. |
Hi without wanting to sound to brash, that's quite a naive statement. Yes the HH is quite a forgiving bird, which is probably actually their biggest downfall, as they are "easier" to actually mess up. A good HH will perform extremely well in the field and take a huge range of quarry, they will fly from the first, follow on or Soar.
A poor HH will not be up to much at all, you really need to fly your hawk EVERY single day to get the best out of them, they need to be fit to get the best out of them, so those left all week and flown at the weekends will never perform to their full potential.
Mike _________________ www.miliscer.co.uk
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yeeharr

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 671 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Naiive? Hardly. I've flown BoP for a number of years, not just HH, but Spars, Gos's, hybrids etc. A lot of falconers and austringers try to surround their hobby with a great air of mystery and make it into a magical craft. It isn't, I agree it isn't for everyone and people should be aware that BoP take up a great deal of time, but trying to put people off keeping them by taking a sangtimonious attitude is only detrimental to the continuation of the sport. |
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bodger

Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 7730 Location: North Wales for the time being.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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I know nothing about the subject, but its nice to see you back in circulation Yeerhar
In an attempt to pour oil on sightly troubled water, I'm sure that both parties have valid points to make on the sport, I only ask that you discuss it like mates rather than competitors. :-) _________________
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MiLisCer
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Yeehaar,
maybe Naive was the wrong word to use.
I am sure you will agree that with your experience, especially flying accipitors, that the HH is its worse enemy.
To get the very best out of them, you really do need to put an awful lot of time and effort in to them to maximise their potential.
Far better a bird for a beginner who has a suitable mentor would be a Red Tail, they are far less forgiving and will teach a novice far more about management of a BoP than the forgiving HH.
It is I am sure you will agree, quite sad to see frequently the number of HHs being flown to a very poor standard.
Mike _________________ www.miliscer.co.uk
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