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Gangi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Apple Juice Processing  Reply with quote

I知 interested in starting up an apple juicing line, hopefully pasteurising 2/3 thousand bottles each year. I have been offered the fruits from 2 unused orchards and wondered if it would be a worthwhile venture? Interested to know if anyone has had any experience of processing at this level.  I知 also interested in sourcing equipment.  Hydraulic pulping and pressing machine, bottle filling machine and a in bottle or flash pasteuriser.
All comments much appreciated.
David
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave, its really interesting to have someone on board with a similar interest as myself.
In the last couple of years or so, I've bought a press, a scratter and a pasteuriser towards achieving the same goal as yourself.

I've bought my gear from Vigo, who seemed to be able to supply both the amateur and the professional scrumper.

Welcome to the forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend whose family farm do this. They have orchards and make apple juice pear juice and cider vinegar. If you like I could ask their farm manager to talk to you. Whereabouts do you live - i'm sure they would be happy to show you round. Love Lizzie
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gangi.
We'll move this post of yours to the 'Tipplers' section shortly, but in the meantime, have a look at this link for Vigo.
http://www.vigopresses.co.uk/store/pages.php?page=visit_us

I've found them to be very helpful.
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Gangi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Bodger.... I have spent many hours on the internet and yes Vigo seem to be good, finally got their catalogue on Friday which I have been trawling through. This being new to me I知 keen not to waste too much money!! So any advice would be much appreciated.  Found the link for OTG from your Fancy pigeon page and find it very interesting. Is your equipment in the lastest catalogue? which pasteuriser have you gone for?  
Hello Lizzie....  I live close to Stourbridge in the West Midlands, to see this process in operation would be great, haven稚 been able to find anyone in this area doing this yet I知 willing to travel.
Thank you both
David
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to OTG Gangi  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wade through this Dave.

http://overthegate.myfreeforum.org/about13091.html

The pasteuriser that I bought from Vigo was the one that will do 13 bottles at a time. I've since found out that you can do the same with a Baby Burco much more cheaply.
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Gangi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bodger wish I壇 posted earlier so much information, going to phone Vigo tomorrow for prices.
Many Thanks
David
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The baby Burcos really are the way to go for your pasteurising.You could probably buy haldf a dozen or more of them for the price of the one that I bought and there's nothing to stop you having them all working at the same time.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sold a so called electric jam maker at Lidl this year for 」39--it was a sterilizer/pasteurizer--not a jam maker at all and it had a good capacity--Ive bottled fruit and pasteurised juice with it and it was fine. According to the instructions you can also use it for veg and meat--sample recipes for bottled meat and instructions for veg, usually you can't use home processors without botulism risk. They usually repeat "specials" every year.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats well worth knowing Lottie.

How did you get on at Vigo Gangi ?
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Gangi



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bodger
All going well, I知 now in the process of costing it all out!

The equipment I知 looking at:
Speidel mill up 1,000 kg/hr
Voran press 300kg/hr
3 head bottle filler 110 ltr/hr
In-bottle pasteuriser 500/800 bottles per day

Potentially now I have access to 500 apple trees and a small number of pear and plum trees.
So looking good! Hopefully shouldn稚 take long to recover the capital costs??

Wonder if anyone one on site can answer these questions, roughly how long would it take to pick the apples from 8ft mature apple tree? How long would it take to prune said tree? (This orchard has been neglected for the past 3 years)

Cheers David.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need as much help as possible and as for how long it would take you to prune a tree ? I'll have a better idea after I've been on this course.

http://overthegate.myfreeforum.org/about21327.html

Have you got a link to the Voran press that you are thinking of getting ?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bodger

Hadn稚 planned to get so involved, 菟runing and harvesting! Was hoping to have the apples washed and delivered to me! So the course you池e attending, I might see you there.LOL
Have been quoted 」12 pr/hr for pruning, now if they do 12 trees pr/hr I reckon that will be a good deal. But I somehow doubt it!

The press link
http://www.vigoltd.com/rack-and-cloth-presses.php

David
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they aren't your orchards, I think that I'd leave the trees well alone and simply take the apples that they produce even though they are being neglected.

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