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bodger
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 Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: Oh damnation ! Northern Mite |
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Its been nearly ten years since my birds have had an infestation of these horrible little blighters but this afternoon I found two cockerels with really heavy infestations.
For those who don't know, NM appear as hordes of little black specks which if left unchecked will quite literally eat your birds alive.
I've swung into action straight away and removed the birds from the building. As an opening shot, I've lit an atellic dust candle in the shed that I used to use for fumigating grain silos. Tomorrow, every bird will be treated with four drops of Ivomectin pour on and then I'll be spraying all the sheds with a dilution of Duramitex.
A couple of questions. is there anything else I should do and is there a withdrawl period for eggs with Ivomectin and if so, how long is it ?
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Any chance of a photo of the little blighters? I have no idea what they look like! Love Lizzie
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Just reading this post makes me itch
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bodger
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With the aid of my unwilling but able asistant Kaz, I've been through the lot and the two cockerels were th only one showing signs of Northern mite. I may have been lucky but all the birds have had a squirt or two of Mite- Kill and later today all the chicken accomodation will be sprayed with the Duramitex that i've had on the shelf for years. Next weekend, all the birds will be treated with Ivomectin. God its too hot to be scrambling about after chickens. 
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: Poultry. |
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just found this on web. "Administration depends on the strength of Ivomec in the preparation that you are using. Either way, it will probably still not be licensed for poultry. You should check with the manufacturer. I consulted with here who gave me dosing advice directly, I used Ivomec Eprinex. The withdrawal with the one I used was 7 days for eggs and 28 days for meat. "
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bodger
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My layers have just had their botties squirted with Mite-kill, they wont be getting the Ivomec. I'll only use it on my growers and breeding stock. 
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Poultry. |
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| Pennyroyal wrote: | | just found this on web. "Administration depends on the strength of Ivomec in the preparation that you are using. Either way, it will probably still not be licensed for poultry. You should check with the manufacturer. I consulted with here who gave me dosing advice directly, I used Ivomec Eprinex. The withdrawal with the one I used was 7 days for eggs and 28 days for meat. " |
There is a Ivomec spot on licenced for poultry-see other recent post somewhere....!! |
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true-game
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Do people not think that some of the reasons that certain products are not licensed for certain animals is down to the manufacturers wanting to make more money. If you look at the content of most of these products - wether brand names at £100 plus vat or others at over half the price - you will find they are the same. The only thing is how much to put on?
Just a thought.
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Taffy
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I use novomectin and I dont get any problems one of the local vet uses it for horse its not licensed for them either
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| true-game wrote: | Do people not think that some of the reasons that certain products are not licensed for certain animals is down to the manufacturers wanting to make more money. If you look at the content of most of these products - wether brand names at £100 plus vat or others at over half the price - you will find they are the same. The only thing is how much to put on?
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The licencing of drugs isn't down to money. The active ingredient in the product will have to under rigorous testing to ensure its safety in animals, not just for the animal itself but for us too-whether it is excreted excessively in urine/faeces, whether it accumulates in the tissue (for meat) or other products (eggs, milk etc). If a drug isn't licenced it may be because the required research has not been done therfore no licence is granted. Subsequently some products gain a new licence for use in different animal types if the work has been done. We are also at the mercy of the EU who regularly ban substances which have in the past been the only useful drug for certain conditions in certain animals (eg Emtryl for use in gamebird farming, citronella).
Vets can use drugs off licence if no other is available however they should follow a system whereby they use licecned first if it is available.
People often use drugs they have been given for one thing on another with no effects. However others do and end up with dead animals! Penicillin kills guinea pigs, ivomec kills collie with the merle gene, potentiated sulphonamides (antibiotics) can be used in your horse but if they've recently had a vet administered sedative you'll end up with a dead horse, certain dog flea treatments will kill cats. Best to stick to the "rules" to avoid disappointment. |
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bodger
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The reason why a number of drugs are not licensed for certain animal use is down to money. It costs a lot of money to get a drug licensed for a particular use and the producers quite often take a commercial decision that its not going to be financially worth their while to go through the process.
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