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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:50 pm    Post subject: Dog Food  Reply with quote

I have had to change how I feed the dogs due to a change in shopping habits - I have tried a complete food from a different supermarket which claims that the food contains no artificial colourings.

Why then does both the food and the dog poo look bright orange?

I'll shop further afield tomorrow to get something better.

What do you feed your dogs on?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meat and bones  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cash & carry cheap large tins and scraps
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dog, called Biscuit, has suffered for the last year with severely  inflamed small intestines.
It started with her strangely not eating her regular dog food meals and she was getting very "uninterested", thin and looking fed up.
The vets did x-rays and scans thinking it was irritable bowel syndrome.
They sent intestinal samples to a path. lab for analysis and it turned out that her intestines could not handle protein, which was leaking into her body cavities.
A dosage of steroid tablets together with hypoallergenic food was prescribed - nothing else.
We still haven't discovered what food upset her guts and she's now on half a steroid a day plus the hypo food.
She has recovered most of her bounce but it's aged her immensely.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad that Biscuit has got better  

What level of protein should dogs be having?
The stuff that we are feeding has 23% protein.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the label that shows the gubbins:-



Protein is measured at 6%, which is a tad lower than yours    

We were advised that we didn't actually know what animal the dog food we used came from but if we sourced some of known origin and Biscuit didn't get ill then it may do.
We haven't bothered because this hypo. stuff doesn't react with her guts so we buy boxes of it from our suppliers as required.
Treats, chews, titbits and stuff are taboo also, so we carry a supply of hypoallergenic mini treats for her.  

The label also says that dogs 195-385g need 0.5 to 1 tin a day
                                          650-885g need 1.75 to 2.25 tins a day
                                         1095-1295g need 2.25 to 3.25 tins a day
                                          1485-1840g need 3.75 to 4.5 tins a day
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear Biscuit is better but that was a big scare
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had my two on this for a few months now, used to swear by Harringtons then was made aware of CSJ.

http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/....asp?idproduct=7&idcategory=4

Although if I had the time and money I would go back to BARF.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never buy from a supermarket - go to a good agricultural supplier or talk direct to a proper feed manufacturer to find their local supplier.

We have 7 working golden retrievers and feed and supply Dodson & Horrells (Chudleys) commercial line called 'Goldline'. But Skinners is good and so is CSJ as has been mentioned elsewhere.

DO NOT FEED BAKERS.......
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but ours live on beef and bones from cattle they have vet check every year and get great report never any teeth problems either, are a 'heading' and 'hunter way' so run alot. Now for question protein level has been mentioned as too high is bad can someone tell me why? We had a Rotty and she lived to 17 other working dogs all lived long.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had dogs all my life, and have fed them wrongly all the time , when I was young my /parents dogs were few scraps, when I first got my own dogs I fed them Wilsons complete working meal, but always fed them a lot of bunny ,pigeon, fish, etc, I used to have around 6 working dogs at any one time , and every sunday I used to boil up a great big pot/tub of veg ,plus fish ,or bunny ,and make a stew which I then fed fresh for a couple of days the rest frozen and kept in 2 old ice cream freezers,i used to put a few handfuls of oatmeal or porridge oats in the mix , I also fed them some raw mince, or tripe, depending on the availability, my dogs  always fit and raring to go ,living  too old age and  still wanting to do a job, as a wee bonus if they had a hard day in front of them I used to feed them a wheat biscuit soaked in  goats milk with a raw egg on top.
Now I have two dogs a border and a min schnauzer both of which are spoiled rotten, and fed much the same way as I did when I started 60 years ago , and heaven forbid but all my dogs have enjoyed a bone to gnaw on and keep them from becoming bored .
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our vet said that giving them bones helps a lot with their teeth being clean and healthy so no expencsve dental work  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HonkHonk wrote:
I have had my two on this for a few months now, used to swear by Harringtons then was made aware of CSJ.

http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/....asp?idproduct=7&idcategory=4

Although if I had the time and money I would go back to BARF.

I like the look of that feed, but can't get a quote for delivery without opening an account, how much is carriage on a 15kg sack?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BARF
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We fed Brodie, our last dane on CSJ and she did brilliantly on it.  Solomon used to have it too but then he developed somethign very similar to Biscuit.  After all the test results were back they wanted to put him on the same hypo diet that Biscuit is on - you can imagine the cost for a 65kg dane...not that he wouldn't have had it if it was the only choice but we were told that even foody dogs aren't keen on it (dry form) so we swapped him to the raw food diet and he has never looked back.  Two small (something a toy sized dog would produce) poos a day and WHITE because of the bone content.  Is a pain to remember to take the food our of the freezer in time and in fact Solly has half a chest freezer just for his food as he goes through 4lb of the stuff a day and we have it delivered (that that we don't use of our own meat) in bulk once a month.

Joe, have a look for suppliers of CSJ in your area because a lot of breeders act as suppliers and you can collect from them.  a 15kg of maintenance food for an adult dog should cost you about £11.50


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