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The Cider Journey - Creating a new local drink!
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brewer66



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Hi Lorraine,
They don't list rootstock for sale, I phoned and asked. I got 25 two year old MM106. £1.25 each plus VAT.
They list trees for sale on MM106, M25 and M9 so I assume they will have them but I don't know if they do any others.
Well done with 5 out of 5
I was pleased with 19 out of 25 at my first attempt  
I plan on redoing the failed 6 again this winter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Brewer, Yes, I got mine from Adams apples too....about 120 of them in the end!

They seem to be growing fine but I have space for more and will look to try another supplier....the two year old trees that John Worle provides look mighty fine.


Congratulations of the grafting everyone - extremely satisfying when it works!

Had 100% success so far from a batch of twenty trees which came from a parent stock that were unfortunately removed from a garden.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im collecting John at Exeter airport and then we are going for a visit and a chat at Vigo.  They are damned expensive, but as Im taking my technical expert Im hoping he will say  "I can make that" to a lot of my wants.

Im thinking of a orange juice container for storing the finished cider, but would prefer a big BiB system - say 200L bags.  Anyone know where I can buy these?  It would be the perfect storage solution.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, Back to the Cider Journey.

It's been a busy few months lots of developments at the orchard with some exciting plans ahead. Though, in the meantime, here's a piece about showing off your well crafted drink:

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During the many months of late 2013 cider makers both small and large were sipping, blending, testing and perfecting their drink for the new season. This amount of effort is represented by the widely sought after first place prize awarded at the British Cider Championships of the Royal Bath and West Show in Somerset. Some of these brews have had the simplest of treatment by crushing to release the juice and simply decanted into large barrels or plastic vessels. They sit quietly fermenting under their own natural yeasts in the corner of a darkened barn or the cupboard under the stairs in your semi-detached. Other drinks are finely crafted like a french champagne through a method known as keeving or others are pressings that require the expert mixing of a wide range of apple varieties (up to 30!) to produce a well rounded and palatable cider.

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But it isn't just the one grand prize that people seek - thankfully there are other categories which represent the diverse range of ciders and perry on offer across the country.

Sadly, the public cannot sample the submitted drinks but the ample amount of bars and stalls selling the alcoholic beverages is more than enough to satisfy your thirst. Or if you're driving a wide range of fruit juices were available and apple juice in particular held it's own competition too, which was won by Perrys. It was quite a backdrop in the bar to sit and enjoy a pint with a huge selection of demijohns and bottles stacked around you - they reminded me of a science lab with rich colourful intoxicating chemicals inside.

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Other stalls in the cider marquee featured the excellent John Worle with his beautifully nurtured fruit trees. The man himself was on hand to provide advice to the public on planting techniques and suitable regional varieties of apple and pear.

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The fantastic Vigo were present to show off some smaller hand operated fruit presses along with larger more commercial machines - both equally sort after and ready to break the bank!




The showground has its own small mature orchard where the public can enjoy their drinks and soak up the atmosphere and also watch live demonstrations. In particular the old technique of pressing apple pulp through a bed of straw (cheeses) was on display by (apparently) members of the Wurzels. The old timber fruit press creaked and groaned but still produced a huge quantity of juice from each pressing. (see video on my website www.theciderjourney.co.uk ).

So, here are the winners of the many categories with overall winner Broadpool cider, a variety from Shepton Mallet, Somerset (very local to the showground!)











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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pictures and write up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great feature Casper, I've competed in lots of wine and beer competitions but in this part of the world cider classes are like hens teeth.
I'll have to look "down south"  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casper, a couple of months ago we visited Sheppys in Somerset. You've probably been there before, but it was well worth a visit.
They'd recently planted  up quite a few more acres down to orchard and how they'd done it was amazing. I'll see if Kaz has still got the photos but they'd used a new planting method which meant they were able to plant hundreds and hundreds of trees per acre.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent write up Casper.

Fantastic array of colours, I would love to have sampled some of those.  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up and pic's. thanks for sharing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem everyone, glad you like dit....those ciders were crying out to be drunk! Or I was drunk crying out?

I remember going to Sheppys many years back as a kid with my parents (my Dad was one heck of a scrumpy lover) They've refined the drink more these days so I'll have to return and pay them a visit. Would love to see the pictures Bodger. I took some advice from the co-owner of The Orchard Pig cider company who said that modern intensive cider apple planting means you can have them spaced within a metre of each other!

He said I could plant twice as many trees in the space I've got. If I acquire more land in the future it'll be for the dense bush trees - only viable for about 30 years but produce quickly and heavy loads.

And do come down south, there's some mighty fine cider to be sampled - just hire a camper and set off!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking write up, thanks for taking thr time and trouble to do it!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a really good write up, thanks.

We were hoping to go to B&W but work just got in the way.

Next year definately - especially after your write up.
Re the championships -no really small producers - is there a reason d'you think?  If you only have to exhibit say 2 bottles then Im surprised there arnt more...or were there loads of entries and only some listed on the results sheets?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was quite a few smaller producers submitting their drinks - I think over 500 in total I read somewhere!


Many were supplied in these bottles:



The bigger players manage to come out tops - though occasionally a more interesting producers creeps in.[/img]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good news for me, I'm a smaller producer and a creep.



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