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12Bore

We have to change our lifestyle

Yesterday Mrs 12Bore was confirmed as (just) being Type 2 diabetic, so we have to change/modify our eating habits. (As the nurse was delivering the news to Mrs 12Bore, she was also looking at me ).
The main difference will be in what we eat and this is where the "fun" will begin.
We both have to lose weight and modify our eating habits, which is no bad thing anyway, but it means that I'm going to have to change what and how I cook. We will need bulk, as we are used to "generous" portions, but need to cut down on fats, calories and sugars.
I'm looking for new food suggestions, beyond the cut out sugar and eat wholefoods, the "problem" is that Mrs 12Bore will not eat things such as lentils and pulses which would be a healthy addition to our diet, she likes sweet desserts (and I've seen the price of Stevia ), nor will she eat olives, courgettes, marrow, tomatoes and a whole range of similar, healthy stuff.
So, what do you all suggest I use as alternative ingredients in everyday foods.
bodger

You know what I'm going to say Joe, so I'll make it a little harder for you. Re arrange this phrase. Book Hairy Diet Bikers.

In fact, Ill see if I can get you a copy.
Digindeep

bodger wrote:
Book Hairy Diet Bikers.
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Re- arranged.." Book Bikers..Hairy Diet"...well I tried.....
Or "Diet Hairy , Book Bikers....

We have been eating more meals than usual, mainly with rice and pasta...
Little-er meat than usual....
Aint't done me no harm so far.....

Still prefer roast tatties and all the usual., can't beat a good old fashion dinner. Big slices of roast meat, leg of lamb on a Sunday roast, Bally heck can't beat it...

There are so many pasta-rice meals....pesta....could go on forever....


Not being in your situation, slim begger I am, as is OH...and not saying this is not a future possibility for us.

I wish you and yours the best.....  

I'm sure you will get it right....
12Bore

Bodger, I have a copy - better use it more often
DD, we've always liked our food, that's why I'm looking to "modify" rather than change. If we change too much or too abruptly, we won't manage it, so it'll be a stealthy change so that we can get used to it.
TBH it'll be good for both of us, and should be much easier to control now than if we leave it 'til later, who knows, I might even avoid getting it myself
Looks like the biggest issue will be reducing sugar.
Like salt, it's not something I use a lot of, but it's added to so many foods. I know I should prepare everything from scratch, but that's not always doable, going to have to read every label from now on...
Rena

If you might be into another possible read, try this one~

The Schwarzbein Principle~the truth about loosing weight, being healthy and feeling younger. (Author~Diana Schwarzbein, M.D. Nancy Deville~ISBN: 1-55874-680-3 )

A friend found two of her companion books for the kindle. This one, however, he had to purchase as a book I believe. †

This Doctor not only covers the weight loss aspect, but also the diabetic as well.

((If you cannot find it, let me know, I have a copy I can send for you to 'check out' and use, if you want, posting it doesn't bother me a whit ~ ))
escape

Portion size is very important; also you might be better off counting calories instead of changing everything.

The main reason why diets fail is because people resent being on them.

If you can reduce what you eat to a manageable level first then this is a great start, it will also put you in the correct mind set to then start looking at reducing some of the sweeter things.

Along with this is moving more, go for long walks to start with after a meal, it helps the body to process the food and will stop you feeling so tired.

Lots of Free websites for calorie counting, the one I use is Livestrong, they seem to have most UK foods on the site and not just American ones.

I am not on a diet as such just keeping an eye on my competition weight, and find the best thing that works for me is Calorie counting.

Again this is not for everyone, a number of my friends use the 5 2 diet and do well on it, but thatís no good for me as my training means I need more than 500 calories a day.
confused

A constant battle lies ahead of you , as you get older your energy levels will fall and your body will tell you that you cant do what you want or what you used to could do, reading every label will be fun to start with but will drive you mad in a years time   , BUT  the good thing is you can do it , you will find that some foods are worse for you than others , and with time you will be able to read the signs better and read what is happening with your body , i was first diagnosed around 21 years ago, at first i went daft and lost around 5 st, i was never going to be able to keep that weight off and slowly i put back around 1.5 st, now i just try and watch whats happening with my body , if i'm wanting to go out for a meal and a drink i try and watch what my other food intake is over the day before and the day after , i once read a book by Ex England footballer Gary Mabbutt and he said that if he had wandered of the diet a strict regime of wheatabix and or tomatoes used to get him back on track, so with that in mind , if i'm going out for a night out , my breakfast usually is wheatabix, and my lunch tomatoes , sweetners have replaced any added sugar , but i find i now enjoy my food/drinks without the need to shove heaped spoonfulls of sugar on everything, extra veg on my plate, chopped cucumber instead of crisps , when i watch T.V.  low fat instead of full fat milk , water instead of fruit cordail, just small changes over time , i have found to be the best for me , you will do it mate dont let it rule your life ! instead you rule it !! all the best ,
12Bore

Thanks folks
We are in it for the long haul, so we are not going to make drastic "life changing" alterations in big steps, more a series of small changes which should add up over time. Like I said, if we make the changes too quickly or too dramatically we won't be able to stick with them (like Confused with the dramatic weight loss) and we might end up worse off than when we started.
We know that we have to change, so it should be easier to set small goals progressively to add up to the bigger changes that we need.
The Hairy Bikers' book has come off the shelf, all I have to do is to persuade Mrs 12Bore to eat a greater variety of foods, otherwise it's going to get very boring, as I said, she won't eat pulses or similar "fillers" and can be picky when it comes to "different" veggies
When I went shopping the other day I spent more time than usual reading labels, is it my imagination or is there some sort of conspiracy to get us all hooked on sugars? They are added to just about everything that come in a jar or a tin Fortunately, because I am not working (!!) I can give the time to preparing meals from scratch, not sure how that will work out when I get a job, but we'll see.
We are looking to cut back on sugar (obviously) and have looked at alternatives, trying to avoid Aspartame (nasty stuff) and Xylitol (nasty side effects) takes you towards Stevia, much sweeter (less to use) and no known side effects, but bdooly heck, £4.99/270g   Looks like we'll be learning to use a LOT less.
Also looking at more/different wholefoods, wholegrain pastas, cous cous etc, if I can persuade her to ear bulgar wheat etc I may be able to sneak lentils in when she's not looking (lentil based stuffing with chicken etc?).
Ah well, onwards and upwards, we'll see what happens.
Wish us luck
Rena

I can source Stevia at a much lower price (where I am), and ship it (which also wouldn't be much), if ya want .... just message me an I'll get to work on it.

ETA~you really don't need much of it, at a time~it is quite sweet tasting.
12Bore

Thanks Rena, I may be in touch!
Duane Dibbley

I find that not eating any starchy foods in the evening / afternoon really helps - no carrots, potatoes, rice or pasta. Also having fruit mid morning and a handful of nuts mid afternoon takes away any 'crashes'. I have been doing this for around 6 weeks and have lost over a stone so far. Also drink a pint of water half an hour before eating  
12Bore

Thanks DD, I've been trying the glass of water trick, it certainly helps.
sod

Can I drink Tea or Coffee as water is dangerous people drown in it, never coffee only indians die in their TeePee  
12Bore

sod wrote:
Can I drink Tea or Coffee as water is dangerous people drown in it, never coffee only indians die in their TeePee †

 
mogs

just make one small change every week. dont try to do it all at once or you body will start to crave foods.....you will be suprised the foods you can eat, but fruit, which is meant to be really good for you   has soo much sugar...especially grapes, avoid as much as you can.
it took me a long time to adjust to being diabetic, but finally it did sink in.....control it or die.
so i made small changes.....heart disease and diabetes are linked, so i lowered my fat intake aswell as my sugar intake. as a result, my cholesterol is lowered, my diabetes is under control, and i have lost weight. it took 2 years to lose 5 stone, but i feel so much healthier for it.
just take it slowly, your wifes medical team would have put her on metformin or something similar...so that will help her control her sugar levels while you are both adjusting. i was told, if i was to get the shakes, she will know all about them, drink a glass of milk, lots of sugar in milk so only one glass....trust me it does help, and so much better than a mars bar...lol.
and never underestimate type 2.......it is as bad as type 1
good luck
Border

mogs wrote:
just make one small change every week. dont try to do it all at once or you body will start to crave foods.....you will be suprised the foods you can eat, but fruit, which is meant to be really good for you † has soo much sugar...especially grapes, avoid as much as you can.
it took me a long time to adjust to being diabetic, but finally it did sink in.....control it or die.
so i made small changes.....heart disease and diabetes are linked, so i lowered my fat intake aswell as my sugar intake. as a result, my cholesterol is lowered, my diabetes is under control, and i have lost weight. it took 2 years to lose 5 stone, but i feel so much healthier for it.
just take it slowly, your wifes medical team would have put her on metformin or something similar...so that will help her control her sugar levels while you are both adjusting. i was told, if i was to get the shakes, she will know all about them, drink a glass of milk, lots of sugar in milk so only one glass....trust me it does help, and so much better than a mars bar...lol.
and never underestimate type 2.......it is as bad as type 1
good luck


+1

Could not agree more with the above, I too am a type 2 diabetic, and all that Mogs has said rings true for me too.

I have been a †diabetic for many years now, my blood sugar ranges from 5.5-6.3, I have a cholesterol count of 2.4 and normal blood pressure.

I had trouble with metformin as it upset my stomach, so my doctor cut down the doseage and Things are ok again.

Being diabetic is not the end of the world, and with a few small changes life will go on as normal.

I occasionally †will eat some of the "bad" foods, chinky for example, just have to Watch what you eat in the week after, then I find my blood sugar rarely moves out of 5.5-6.3 range.

Anyhoo.........best of luck with your changes.......slowly slowly catch a Monkey.
horace

I have type 2 i drink black tea no sugar when i have had a hypo OH makes milky tea with sugar yuk but does the trick
12Bore

Thanks folks the common sense approach seems to be the best idea, we know that we can't change overnight, softly softly catchy monkey
rhino

I don't know if this is genuine and more research on your part would be needed but I found this while I was looking for something else. http://www.cancertutor.com/Diabetes/Diabetes_Type_II.htm
good luck
12Bore

Lots of reading there Rhino, Mrs 12Bore is just diabetic, it might be controllable through diet, with drugs as a back-up.

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