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bodger

Tractors?

Tractors? I know nothing about them but I need one and I've just been offered a David Brown 885. Does anyone know anything about this model? Good or bad?
Gareth

They are OK; but you normally have to strip half the tractor to do run of the mill type repairs.

Service parts are still widely available, and a lot of David Brown tractors were originally sold into Wales, and there are a few specialist DB strippers supplying S/H parts, but here is the big but the production batches run down the assembly line were not that large and there are often variations in the standard build because of the small quantities of assembly parts bought in from many different suppliers.

It is also debatable how long CaseIH/New Holland are going to continue the availability of off the shelf genuine parts for David Brown Tractors .... it is now effectively over 25 years (1984/5) since the David Brown marque was discontinued.

My advice ... go for a Ford, International Harvester or Fiat tractor ..... there were literally millions of these tractors built in long production runs and model cycles; the parts are going to be available for an awful long time to come.
bodger

I wont be able to view this one until Friday and the asking price at the moment is £1500. Its only a few miles up the road, unlike everything that available on fleabay
Gareth

There is an International Harvester 484 with a 3 spool power loader for sale near flint for £2100 these tractors are almost indistructable. http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-van...er-3-spool-block-4100hrs/92212063

Chances are that it was originally supplied by R Cripps & co ltd of Mold in either 1982/83; if so it almost certain that I did PDI and fitted the loader to this tractor at the Melton Mowbray Branch. All group tractor stock was kept at the Nottingham depot, but they were run the 20 odd miles down to us at MM to have the loaders fitted and PDI done ready for direct delivery to the customer, and this was my job in the final year of my apprenticeship.
Captain_Dingbat

Our DB is a 1412, and a good machine at that, even though it's bigger. It has it's moments, but then it IS getting on! Like everything else really, correct maintenance etc. will see you through.



Ours was cutting hedges last weekend. Next weekend will see the post knocker on and replacing broken/rotten posts in the paddocks.
bodger

I'm off to have a look at this tractor with Pugh this morning. if I'm honest, I'm dithering a litle bit. It would be nice to have a tractor, because I do have some work for it, buts its whether its enough to justify the capital outlay. The asking price is £1500 but because the tractor is being sold from a garage, the price would be plus vat.
We have four acres here and implement wise, I have a trailer, a large spike harrow, a roller and a 50% share in a muckspreader. The other thing that i have, is a 16foot boat and no reliable means of getting it on and off the beach. Having said that, I know that there would be days, if not weeks and days when it would stand doing nothing.
When I had the  4x4, I had no problems getting it to perform all these tasks but it was hellishly expensive to run and maintain. The Connect van that I replaced it with is a dream and does more than double the amount of MPG and I don't think that I could afford to do with out it. It really is very useful but gets stuck in little more than a saucer of mud.

I've looked into insurance etc for the tractor and its minimal but as i said, I'm dithering. Ideally, I'd like the impossible, as in a handy sized quads bike that would do all the things a tractor would do.
I'll let you know how I get on today. Its a shame that you couldn't all come with me and hold my hand and decide for me.
confused

For the amount of work it will be doing , i t will run for years if maintained properly , these older machines just kept on going , unlike todays computerised jobs , that you need a degree just to top the water up , all the best with your shopping
Border

In that case mate I'll decide for you don't buy it, and certainly not it that price+vat.

There must be some small fergies or fords about, even if you have to pay a haulage contractor to deliver it.

Check out a magazine called tractors and machinery.

http://www.tmmag.co.uk/

One thing I will say, I think when you have your own tractor you will find many more uses for it than you thought you had, I did when I got my first tractor.

Anyway........ good luck with what ever you decide.
sod

we have one and it is great we can get all the parts we have ever needed here so should be better there, at moment we are putting a new clutch in it which we just had relined there are a lot of after market parts for them around even guards etc.   We have a few tractors mainly DBs with a Ford thrown in  
bodger

I nearly had a wasted thirty mile round trip. Inspite me making  a firm arrangement to see the tractor, the garage thats selling it didn't think it reasonable to ring me to say that they hadn't collected it.

We went from there to another place and have been offered one of these for £2250 with no vat to be paid on it.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=...=0CC0QsAQ&biw=991&bih=451

A very handy size and if I can get him down to£2000 I'll probably have it. What do you think?
12Bore

It may be a great tractor, but WHITE?  's gonna be a b*gger to keep clean!
Border

bodger wrote:
We went from there to another place and have been offered one of these for £2250 with no vat to be paid on it.

A very handy size and if I can get him down to£2000 I'll probably have it. What do you think?


If it is one of these for 2 grand grab his arm off and I will buy it off you.



Why do you have a hang for David Browns Bodger?
bodger

I don't know enough about tractors to be tied to any particular make. Just about anything will do as long as its reliable.
Gareth

Border wrote:
bodger wrote:
We went from there to another place and have been offered one of these for £2250 with no vat to be paid on it.

A very handy size and if I can get him down to£2000 I'll probably have it. What do you think?


If it is one of these for 2 grand grab his arm off and I will buy it off you.



Why do you have a hang for David Browns Bodger?



Funnily enough that picture came up on a used Plant & Machinery auction list that I subscribe to .... and then it was withdrawn pretty sharpish.

Contrary to what the bonnet sticker says ...... that's an early 1970's Ford 5000 with a Roadless 75 front axle fitted ...... someone has been busy and done a very tidy job of that. ..... I just hope the front axle ratios match the rear axle final drive ratios.
Border

Yep ............I also knew what it was, hence my offer to Bodger, if he could purchase it for 2 grand, I would buy it..
Gareth

Border wrote:
Yep ............I also knew what it was, hence my offer to Bodger, if he could purchase it for 2 grand, I would buy it..



If Bodger bought that for 2 grand you probably have to fight me to get at it    


As a boat launching/retrieving tractor Bodger probably wouldn't do any better than that ..... there still loads of old Fordson Super Majors, Ford 5000's, Roadless 75's and 1100 series County tractors up and down the country servicing the beach based inshore fishing fleet.
Border

There's one on the beach at Borth, if my memory serves me correctly it been there since the late 70's.

No doubt Dan will know more about it.

Gareth

At Saundersfoot harbour they use a County 1004 FC: the version with the forward control cab. There is a vee shaped deck plate behind the cab, and smaller boats just drive on to the mostly submerged tractor....... Sorry, I don't have any pictures of the actual tractor in action, but here's a couple of a County 1004 FC culled from the net.



Border

I used to drive one of those for Streetly's spreading lime.

There was a mid mounted crane with clam shell bucket, so I could load myself, spread the lime, and move on to next farm.
bodger

Bingo! A number of connected events today has lead me to getting not one tractor but two !
First of all, I was given a rather tatty Grey Fergi tractor for absolutely nothing, which I thought was rather fortuitous. Its in bits but all the bits are there.
My next step, was to ring a friend for some advice as to how to go about putting the bits together. During our conversation, he put me onto a working Grey Fergi petrol/TVO and i've just got back from buying it. Armed with this one, I'll be able to tow the other one home. There's method to my Magniers. Needless to say, I'm dead chuffed with todays chain of events.
12Bore

Result!
Lorrainelovesplants

bet your glad you didnt buy that david brown plus VAT.............
sod

Great news   there are still thousands of them around this country and fetch good prices as they are great small blocks    
Slipster

Well done,  
Ive not posted on this thread although ive been very tempted, reason being i know nothing about tractors and when i was looking to buy one there was so much conflicting advise and so eventually i bit the bullit and purchased on my own a 1974 Case International 475 with front loader it cost me 3 grand with a number of attachments far more than i wanted to pay but with most of theses old girls being shipped abroad they have rocketed in price, people are right it does spend a lot of time tucked away in the barn but the amount of times i have used it for jobs that i would normally struggle like mad with.
It can be a bit daunting at first owning a tractor but its funny how quickly you learn how they tick and how much info there is out there on keeping theses old girls running.
Hope you have many happy hours looking after her


Pulling out tree stumps...
Gareth

the first new tractor we had on the farm was an IH 475 in 1976.  3 cylinder Perkins engine, 62 HP, 4 X 2+ reverse transmission and Mil single acting front loader with manual bucket trip. It was the first tractor we had with a cab on it, and I still remember the reg no: NJF 777P grandad traded in an IH 250 for it.
bodger

The chap that I'm buying the Fergi from is retired and he did have one of these in the shed.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=...=0CHwQsAQ&biw=991&bih=451

Neither of us mentioned it and its probably not for sale but after thinking about it overnight, I'm tempted to put some feelers out just incase he's willing to part with it. Nothing will probably come of it, but you never know. More importantly, Karen rather fancies me having a red tractor instead of a grey one.
chicken feed

bodger wrote:
The chap that I'm buying the Fergi from is retired and he did have one of these in the shed.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=...=0CHwQsAQ&biw=991&bih=451

Neither of us mentioned it and its probably not for sale but after thinking about it overnight, I'm tempted to put some feelers out just incase he's willing to part with it. Nothing will probably come of it, but you never know. More importantly, Karen rather fancies me having a red tractor instead of a grey one.


dad has a 35x great little worker

i just love the grey fergie though and will happily jump on ours rather than the prestine b250 that i am pushed towards at the shows
sod

All I would say is having 2 the same is a good idea also is the 35 petrol or diesel if diesel 3 or 4 cylender 35 or 35x as here the petrol is known to be under powered and the 4 cyl 35 motor nothing but trouble the 35x 3cyl is fantastic. Sorry to be fly in the ointment
bodger

I did ask him about that and its the much easier starting 3 cylinder

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