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debbie

shooting a fox

Its something we have resisted as we are not keen on guns in the house but we are now having serious fox issues - no loss to feathered friends yet this year but is only a matter of time - neighbours will come out periodically for us but not necessarily when we really need them.   Issue has become worse over the last few years - no hounds to move them on etc.  Anyway, used to shooting with .22 air rifle - rabbits, pigeons, pheasant, rats, sqirrel etc (birds in the head when they areo nthe ground obviously )- any way, will go to local gun club for some lessons/safety checks first before applying for licence but what do you think we should be looking at to shoot Mr fox.  Ground is steep wooded valley.  Saw fox yesterday mornig around 10.30 am in the woods - huge mangy dog fox...wasn't phased by me at all - even when I started to climb up through the woods towards him - he just moved off a few paces will I really started shouting and waving arms around - even throwing a stone or two - he wasn't concerend.
dtalbot

A good rundown of calibres for fox:
http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/...ivities/fox-shooting/fox-calibres
And fox shooting in general
http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/sports-and-activities/fox-shooting/
desperatedan

i have used a .22 hornet  to control all the vermin on my farm for the last 15 years,this will have included hundreds of foxs.i find this calibres does my job well .
hopefullbry

Debs if you are going to shoot then DEER as well i would go for a .243 , as it needs to be stated on your FAC . This caliber will certainly be suitable for both.

Also rember when state on your FAC form for a sound moderator

Bry
debbie

thanks Bry.  Will remember that.
Diz

22/250 has served me very well for Fox and 270 for Deer
Slainte
Diz
hopefullbry

Hi Diz        
       I have a .222 which has sent lots of foxes to thier maker, last wed nite i was shooting placed orange claypigeons out to 300yards.

Thinking of getting a 243 for both fox and deer, but i like my triple      

Bry
bodger

Debbie.
If you're going to apply for your FAC, at the same time,you might as well apply for a number of guns to cover as many eventualities as possible. It wont cost you any extra so why not? If you don't and at a later date you decide to add to your arsenal, then it will cost you another fee.
As well as a gun for foxes and red deer, you might as well get a .22 on your ticket at the same time. They are as cheap as chips to buy, the ammo is the cheapest and they are extremely useful too.
I'm not clued up on guns but I do know that which ever gun you choose will have to be deemed suitable for red deer. Some rifles that are OK for the smaller breeds are not looked upon as being so for the reds.
Big Phil

I have seen foxes dispatched with large 'BB' shot gun rounds. If the fox is unconcerened you should be able walk up close enough to shoot it in the the head or heart / lungs.
No fuss with FAC
Diz

Debbie,
One of the biggest considerations is which rifle suits you. No good getting a nice shiny thing that you cant use comfortably. No need to lug an Accuracy Arms International floating barrel 7.62 when a BRNO 22 will do the job.  One of the attractions to Gun Clubs is the number of like minded people who are only too willing to help. Once they see you can handle a firearm, I am sure they wouldn't mind taking you out to use there Rifle. Find one that suits yourself and your style of shooting. Then practice, hard. Good luck in your new venture.
Slainte
Diz
matt the rat

Debbie

As others have stated, any of the centrefire (as opposed to rimfire) .22 rifles will comfortably dispatch a fox.

I've owned several c/f .22's for fox control, and I'm also a deerstalker.  I've now trimmed my rifles down a bit, as I was fed up with having three gun cabinets here, and use a .243 for both fox and deer.

The .243 will easily handle the big reds you have around there (I've shot over a hundred in your locality), and with the lighter loads, performs very well as a 'varmint' round.

I'm down in the 'homeland' this weekend for (another) funeral on Monday - if you want me to bring a rifle down for you to look at and handle, please ask, and I'll chuck one in the car.

A shotgun with heavy loads will deal with any foxes at close(ish) ranges, and may be better for you as a 'first'.  The chances are, unless D&C constabulary have changed their policies, you won't be allowed a big centrefire rifle as a first gun.

If you need help, ask.  I'm at home (Swimbridge) on a more and more frequent basis now as my mums health is failing, and all our old friends seem to be dying off.
Stoatman

As a general purpose smallholder's rifle, the .17HMR is hard to beat, and will kill foxes cleanly out to about 125 yards. Very accurate and with a devastating bullet - try firing one into soft ground and you'll see what I mean.

It's also good for rabbits, rats, corvids and so on. Ammunition costs more than a .22 but you waste far fewer. I've never needed a follow-up shot with a .17HMR.
Taffy

used to use a .22.50 for foxes up now to a 243 with a 107grain head tried all the light heads do not work due to the twist in the barrel great results though like hitting a cabbage with a sledge hammer
Slipster

Debbie

I would in the first instance contact your local Firearms officer, he will come round to where you hope to shoot and if he is anything like mine will offer endless help and advise.
You may find that the land you hope to shoot is not suitable for some calibres of gun.
The land i shoot was approved for anything upto and including .17 hmr.
Incidently on my certificate it states my .22rimfire is for ground vermin if you search some of the shooting forums you will find endless debates and sometimes heated discussions on whether Foxes are classed as ground vermin. It is my belief ( im sure i read it somewhere on an official site)that a .22 rimfire is not approved for Fox.
Border

Slipster

I am of the same thinking as you, .22 should not be used on fox.  

Here in Denmark it is illegal to use a .22 on fox.

I use a .222 for fox, which I think is an excellent calibre for the job.
desperatedan

Border wrote:
Slipster

I am of the same thinking as you, .22 should not be used on fox.  

Here in Denmark it is illegal to use a .22 on fox.

I use a .222 for fox, which I think is an excellent calibre for the job.

a.22 hornet is fine as its a centerfire
Border

desperatedan wrote:
Border wrote:
Slipster

I am of the same thinking as you, .22 should not be used on fox.  

Here in Denmark it is illegal to use a .22 on fox.

I use a .222 for fox, which I think is an excellent calibre for the job.

a.22 hornet is fine as its a centerfire



Yes, Desperatedan, you are correct a .22cf is legal for fox, so is .22-250.

Slipster, said he thought a .22rf was illegal for fox and I was agreeing with what he said in his post, so not sure why you quoted my post.  
desperatedan

i just read your post not slipsters ,so i didnot realise  you ment rim fire  
bagzi

My Nieghbour called Me a couple of days ago about a Fox that was coming in the day and taking Poultry. I went out this evening and  dispatched it with My 17 HMR an excellent tool. I have also shot many Fox's with a 12 -bore and heavy load B.B's  during the day a lot of time spent creeping around with a Shotgun though!
Border

desperatedan wrote:
i just read your post not slipsters ,so i didnot realise  you ment rim fire  


Ok.......... no problem  

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