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johnbaz

restoring an unloved BSA Airsporter!!

Hi all

I acquired a mk1 BSA Airsporter a couple of weeks ago, the action was rusty and painted black! The stock was (and still is at the moment!) in pieces!!

A good candidate to try out a new reblueing fluid I thought!!...

As I received the rifle..





I used the slack belt part of a 1" linisher to remove the rust and paint!, here the job is almost done..



There was an amount of pitting that was too deep to remove so i've treat it with rust inhibitor, hopefully it will stay OK!!..



Fully polished (Well, as good as I could get it!!)..



I was doing three rifles at the same time, as well as the mk1 Airsporter I was attempting my Stutzen Airsporter which I stripped a couple of years ago and can't find the parts now!! (They're in the house somewhere!!)..
I also reblued an old HW35 from 1972, this one had been cammo'd and looked terrible, I stripped and polished the action with the intention of getting it professionally reblued but the wife put it in the conservatory right through winter and it all went rusty again!!..

Anyhow, here's the results of the new Ballistol product..







And the HW35 rebuilt, the stock will be removed again to further strip it it and then refinish it..








The finish is far from a professional result but is the best i've ever managed with cold blue potions!!!


Cheers, John  
Slipster

They look really nice    well done you and what a great hobby
bodger

Superb job.
sod

A great job
horace

 
kaz

That looks great - what a good hobby
magnet

beeza resto

Nice work, that's a good deep blue, ive done one or two over the years and had pretty good results that bluing solution is amazing stuff. Ithink it was birchwood casey gear I used.....Magnet  
12Bore

I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"
johnbaz

12Bore wrote:
I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"


Hi 12Bore

The Webley Tempest is made of an aluminium alloy (or zinc alloy, can't remember which but I think carburetters are the same stuff and we used to call it 'monkey metal'!!) and so probably wouldn't take a blued finish, though I have a recollection of trying the blueing cream on an old Webley hawk foresight  and it turning black!!

Definitely the enamel paint would be much more durable though  



John  
johnbaz

12Bore wrote:
I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"


Hi 12Bore

The Webley Tempest is made of an aluminium alloy (or zinc alloy, can't remember which but I think carburetters are the same stuff and we used to call it 'monkey metal'!!) and so probably wouldn't take a blued finish, though I have a recollection of trying the blueing cream on an old Webley hawk foresight  and it turning black!!

Definitely the enamel paint would be much more durable though  



John  
Border

John,

May I ask what mixture you use for blueing.

Why don't you use the hot blueing method.

Cracking looking job on that HW35
12Bore

johnbaz wrote:
12Bore wrote:
I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"


Hi 12Bore

The Webley Tempest is made of an aluminium alloy (or zinc alloy, can't remember which but I think carburetters are the same stuff and we used to call it 'monkey metal'!!) and so probably wouldn't take a blued finish, though I have a recollection of trying the blueing cream on an old Webley hawk foresight  and it turning black!!

Definitely the enamel paint would be much more durable though  



John  

I'll leave well alone then!
Feels heavy for for an ally alloy - must be all the paint!
12Bore

12Bore wrote:
johnbaz wrote:
12Bore wrote:
I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"


Hi 12Bore

The Webley Tempest is made of an aluminium alloy (or zinc alloy, can't remember which but I think carburetters are the same stuff and we used to call it 'monkey metal'!!) and so probably wouldn't take a blued finish, though I have a recollection of trying the blueing cream on an old Webley hawk foresight  and it turning black!!

Definitely the enamel paint would be much more durable though  



John  

I'll leave well alone then!
Feels heavy for for an ally alloy - must be all the paint!

I was going to add this as an edit, but I can't find the edit button
Just had a quick look, no visible markings (paint too thick), quite heavy and .22cal, now wondering if it's actually a Webley Senior
johnbaz

Border wrote:
John,

May I ask what mixture you use for blueing.

Why don't you use the hot blueing method.

Cracking looking job on that HW35


Hi Border

I used a new product called Ballistol Klever Brunierung!!  (apparently, that's the German for  Gun Blueing!) I bought mine from fleabay!

Here is where I bought mine but Welsh Willie at Woodfield Guncare Products sells it too..

It's the second product down, I was worried as I thought i'd bought plum brown for dmascus shotgun barrels but Willie must have thought that the Brunierung meant (same as me!!) Browning!!


http://www.woodfield-gcp.co.uk/ballistol.htm



Cheers, John  
johnbaz

12Bore wrote:
12Bore wrote:
johnbaz wrote:
12Bore wrote:
I'm impressed, well done
I keep looking at the old Webley Tempest I was given years ago and wondering "What's it really like under all that enamel paint..?"


Hi 12Bore

The Webley Tempest is made of an aluminium alloy (or zinc alloy, can't remember which but I think carburetters are the same stuff and we used to call it 'monkey metal'!!) and so probably wouldn't take a blued finish, though I have a recollection of trying the blueing cream on an old Webley hawk foresight  and it turning black!!

Definitely the enamel paint would be much more durable though  



John  

I'll leave well alone then!
Feels heavy for for an ally alloy - must be all the paint!

I was going to add this as an edit, but I can't find the edit button
Just had a quick look, no visible markings (paint too thick), quite heavy and .22cal, now wondering if it's actually a Webley Senior


Hi 12Bore

Which of these does it look like??

Webley Juniors (steel)..


Webley mk1 (steel Pre war straight grip and post war slant grip)..


Webley Seniors (steel but bottom right is alloy mk2)..


Webley Premiers (top two are nickel plated steel, bottom is alloy mk2)


Top- Webley Typhoon
Centre Webley Hurricane
Bottom Webley Tempest
All are alloy..


Generally speaking, if it's a slim pistol the it will be steel, if it's fatter or bulkier then it will be a later alloy type..


Cheers, John

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