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bodger

Poor old Winnie

Our Border terrier Winnie has had a rough time of it over the last year or more.
First of all she was savaged by our daughters Labrador. Do you remember the pictures ?

Then a few months ago for some unknown reason, at her age she decided to swallow some rubber, which had to be removed from mher intestines.

Well ! I've just left her at the vets where she's going to have blood tests and an X- ray. She's not been herself for a few weeks now.

I'll be picking her up at three this afternoon and I have a feeling that the news is not going to be good. Fingers crossed please.
dan




good luck with the results  
BorderReiver

Dogs are as bad as children, you never stop worrying about them.

I hope it's good news from the vet.
Kirbs

awww poor Winnie, hope its just a bug or somethng easy to treat.
Fingers & paws crossed here that the news is good.
Scottie

Lets hope it good new Bodger
conundrum

Fingers crossed for the old lady.
kaz

She will be 9 this October so only middle aged, not old
conundrum

Whoops...definately only middle aged....and hopefully will have many years of "stuff" ahead of her!!
dtalbot

Oh no, fingers crossed!
green man

What sad news, I do hope news is OK, Winnie has a certain way about her very endearing.
bodger

Just phoned the vets and the blood test has come back negative. Liver and kidney function is shown as being normal but it also shows that she is very slightly anaemic.
Winnie has been quite unhappy for the last month or so and not eating very well and has also been a bit hunched up. The x- ray shows that she has an area of spondilosis in the spine.
I'm going to pick her up in a few minutes and return with some medication.
I'm also going to her a magnetic dog collar up from our shop and see if that does her any good.
una

poor babe

i'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Lois

hope she gets better soon Kaz
BorderReiver

That's a relief.

A daily NSAID will have running about like a young 'un again.
Kirbs

Good that all the tests came back normal. I know some peeps that swear by those mag collars. Hope it works for Winnie & she has a speedy recovery.
Bazzer

She's a Clan Bodge mate. She'll be there for years.
That tough she could almost be an "Essex Girl".
Scottie

Glad to hear its not to serious, I know how she feels, I have  spondilosis
in my neck sopme days its better than others
Alacrity

Can't recommend bioflow collars highly enough. Fantastic product with real results for me and many others I know personally and have seen the difference in their dogs.

Good luck, and although you have something to over come it's excellent news that the tests came back clear.

TCx
Bazzer

I've got a pain in the neck too.  :lalala:
Seabird

Hope Winnie feels better soon - glad all the other tests came back OK.
kaz

Winnie threw up her tea again last night (after much stomach rumbling and groaning) and was slightly sick during the night as well  She has had a small portion of cereal this morning and is OK so far.
I'm going to try her with some 'delicate' food for a while instead of the kibble and see how she goes.
skooteewu

Poor old lass. She'll have to put her paws up a littlemore often
Bazzer

Jessie seems to be able to cope with Boiled Rice and Chicken when she's a bit dicky.

Tried her with Mushroom Fried Rice and Chicken Madras but the vet told me to listen more carefully in future and she might actually improve.
BorderReiver

We've found that boiled fish seems to stay down. When we have a poorly dog we buy a fair bit of the cheapest type of white fish and put portions in the freezer.

I've also heard that tomato soup will be eaten when everything else fails.
kaz

BorderReiver wrote:


I've also heard that tomato soup will be eaten when everything else fails.


Tomato Soup!
I can't imagine that! Tomatoes seem to be one of a few things that our dogs won't touch.
Kirbs

Could it be the Rimadyl causing the sickness?
I would call the vets to ask advice if it carries on tomorrow Kaz, just to have a chat & put your mind at rest.
When Boo has any type of dodgy tum its starve then plain boiled rice for a few days, little & often.
Hope Winnie settles back to norm soon, poor pup its horrible when they are not 100%
kaz

Poor Winnie still hasn't settled down. Some nights she will eat everything, sometimes just a bit and some nights like tonight she won't even look at her food and is very dejected. She has lost quite a bit of weight so it will be back to the vets with her next week.
Bazzer

   

Come on Winnie, pull yerself together lass.
rosiemo

Just a thought - when the vet said she was anaemic, did he do a full blood test?  Are her gums/inside her eyes/ears pale?  and if I ask a personal question - are her "waste" products normal?

If Winnie still isn't right and this has been going on for a month and I would take her back to the vets this week.

I hope you don't mind but Ive pm'd you a link just to have a little look over.

Steph
browner

get well soon winne. hope everything works out ok kaz.
kaz

rosiemo wrote:
Just a thought - when the vet said she was anaemic, did he do a full blood test?  Are her gums/inside her eyes/ears pale?  and if I ask a personal question - are her "waste" products normal?



Thanks Rosiemo - we haven't been told anything specific about the anaemia so we will ask
Her 'waste' products are normal  (but she has terrible wind when she decides to eat   )
rosiemo

Nice!!
Issy

Just read this thread.  Hope you find out what is wrong with her soon and that she starts to get better.
kaz

I saw a sensible vet tonight who has diagnosed it as colitis which can be managed with an exclusion diet to see what she is sensitive to and then avoid it
She should start to feel better after the steroid injection that she had tonight
dan

road to recovery now then Kaz  
Bazzer

Paws crossed Kaz.

Lot's of love.
Jessie.



bodger

Touch wood, we may have cracked it. Winnie is now mad keen to get every scrap of food that she can. We are making sure that she doesn't eat too much to quickly but she has got quite a bit of weight to put back on.
Bazzer

       

Come the Win.
Try to catch Daddy up.
BorderReiver

 

Thank goodness for that, we can all stop fretting now.
Kirbs

Well done Winnie keep it up
welsh lamb

Excellent news Winnie
Celtic Eagle

Good to hear she's on the mend
freckle

bodger wrote:
Touch wood, we may have cracked it. Winnie is now mad keen to get every scrap of food that she can. We are making sure that she doesn't eat too much to quickly but she has got quite a bit of weight to put back on.


Not to put a dampener on things Bodge and Kaz but a side effect of steroids is a markedly increased appetite. Depends on what she was given-short/medium/long acting-but the test will be how she is once its effects have worn off.
Fingers crossed she carries on as now.
bodger

The steroids appear to have worn off and Winnie has been off for the last couple of days.  I can see us eventually losing this dog.
BorderReiver

Oh that is bad news.

It's a nightmare deciding when it's time to stop trying.

green man

Blast! Boiled chicken only diet then, so which chuck will go first bodger?
bodger

We've just got back from the vets and she's had another steroid injection. This one should last for six weeks. We've got to hope that she stays well longer than that and that in the meantime whatever ails her calms down.
kaz

green man wrote:
Blast! Boiled chicken only diet then,


When she's off like this she can't even be tempted with anything at all  and if she does have a nibble she gets stomach cramps and brings it all back.
rosiemo

You could try Complan.  That way Winnie is getting fluids as well.
kaz

She is drinking water.
Kirbs

Come on Winnie we are all routing for you.
Bazzer

Keep in there scrapping Winnie.
BorderReiver

I've heard that tomato soup works when nothing else does.

No idea how true that is.

Hope the steroids do the trick this time.
bodger

Its been just three weeks since Winnie had the long lasting steroid injection that the vet thought would last for six weeks. In that time, she's been fine but its obviously worn off, she's been off her food since yesterday and actually ran the other way when her dinner was put down for her this evening. It looks as if we are back at square one, we really don't know what to do for the best.
green man

Well this is such an awful situation to be in if she can eat anything when she is up for it then could it be a foreign body or tumour , has she had an x-ray or a scan or barium meal could she have a intesuseption (spell) or similar? have you tried her on an elimination diet, if so then it has to be a foreigner or inflamation/chronic infection. I do hope you find the answer soon .

http://ezinearticles.com/?An-Intr...tory-Bowel-Disease&id=1202927
liverpool pete

i hope she gets better soon
it's horrible when one of your pup pals is sick
Darren

BorderReiver wrote:
I've heard that tomato soup works when nothing else does.

No idea how true that is.

Hope the steroids do the trick this time.

tomato soup is normally given to coursing dogs as it helps allay lactic acid build up which can  cause stomach cramps so in this instance it probably wouldnt help, sorry
Bazzer

Come on girl.
green man

http://www.borderterrier-cecs.com/cecs_symptoms.htm

A long shot I know-

This disease is little understood but is known to be present in some Border Terriers and it seems to have many manifestations, it might be worth a read from a few pages, or try the diet out, or something.
Issy

Poor girlie   .
bodger

I've arranged for one of the vets to give me a call after three today. I'm not really sure what I'm going to say.
Bazzer

Where your and Kaz's hearts takes you mate.
Whatever is best for her.
bodger

Thats the problem Baz, we really don't know what to do and although notes are kept on her, we tend to get a different vet most visits.
Bazzer

Look mate.
Us doggy people all understand. We've probally all been there more than once and that's once too often.
Go the route that you and Kaz thinks best. Vet's bills or insurance don't come into it when it's your baby.
Best for your friend with a leg on all four corners, one end that bites or licks and the other end that wags it's tail or, best leave it there.
Thoughts are with you and Kaz and not forgetting the kids.

We're rooting for you Winnie.
kaz

It looks as though Winnie was going for the sympathy vote this time and rebelling at not being offered the same food as the other dogs
Now that I know that she can still get a sore tummy on the sensitive stuff I am being less fussy about her getting her teeth on some of the titbits that the other dogs get and she isn't showing any adverse effects yet
Issy

Good for Winnie   .  Excellent news   .
emsley

Hooray for Winnie - go girl  
liverpool pete

i am glad she is getting better  
Kirbs

she is a little minx   Good for you Winnie keep it up.
bodger

Kaz has just had to take Winnie back to the vets yet again. She's off her food and is in quite a bit of pain. We've had some good advice from people off the forum and armed with this, lets hope that we can start to get it sorted.
dan

fingers crossed that it does get sorted, Good luck to winnie  
kaz

Winnie is booked in tomorrow for repeat x-rays and blood tests which may lead to a repeat laparoscopy
The other option was a course of vitamin B tablets and antibiotics but I feel that it would just mask the symptoms again
Kirbs

Bless little Winnie. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
Scottie

Hope all goes well tomorrow.  Come on Winnie you can beat it  
green man

I'm keeping them crossed for you Winnie. :grommit:
bodger

No food for Winnie this morning but how typical ? The dog has gone from being in pain and not even being able to keep a drink of water down, to being quite perky and starving hungry. I've got to drop her off at the vets this morning with a view to picking her up at around 3.30pm
Bazzer

Everything crossed again.
Come on Win' you can beat it.
conundrum

I hope you get to the bottom of this. It does sound like colitis, and this can be varying levels of severe. Remember if you get more anti-biotics to also give plenty of pro-biotics ans the anti-b kills the good flora in the gut as well as the bad.

Diet is usually the key, with grains and glutens often the villains, dogs guts not being able to digest these inn any real way.

Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
bodger

The dog has never really been right since she had the operation to remove a piece of rubber that they say she swallowed.
conundrum

Oh, I wonder if there is trouble at the op site....adhesions causing pain etc....did you see the offending piece of rubber??
bodger

I saw a little piece that they removed,it looked nothing  like anything that we'd seen around the house at the time and she's never been a chewing dog.
dan

Could you get a second opinion from another practice?
Also, have they  xrayd the sight were the op was since shes healed up? poor winnie seems to be going thru the wars with all this going on, it must be knocking her for 6.
mrs tiggywinkle

Hope everything goes ok for Winnie.
bodger

I've got to go and fetch her now. They havent done an operation.

They say that there's a lot of gas in the gut, I could have told them that, last night it was as thick as a bag at times.
Colitus is still favourite, so I'll be picking up some different tablets for that, some antibiotics and she's had a short term steroid injection.

They X rayed her and couldn't find anything other than a shotgun pellet, which she's probably swallowed recently in the cooked rabbit that we've been trying to tempt her to eat with.

If things don't clear up by next Monday, then she's got to go back in for another X-ray and a possible opp.
bodger

They've sent me back home with this dog and it still wont look at food and you can hear its stomach gurgling from the next room.
Scottie

Poor old Winnie.  I think I would try and get a second opion  
dan

i agree with scottie...............i think i'd get one too  
Kirbs

How frustrating for you & Winnie, she must be tired of being poorly for so long  
kaz

bodger wrote:
They've sent me back home with this dog and it still wont look at food and you can hear its stomach gurgling from the next room.


She rarely eats when I'm not there  - she ate a meal of raw mince and probiotics for her tea - I haven't given her too much so we'll see what happens.
bodger

We've had a bad weekend with Winnnie and Karen has just left the house with her for the vets.
Winnie has steadily lost weight over the months and has gone down from being over weight to 14 and a quarter pounds. We have our little victories where her eating is concerned but these have been sporadic and we think possibly fueled by her steroid medication.
We've tried special diets but to no avail. The bottom line, is that she hasn't been right since she had the operation for the removal of a piece of rubber that she supposedly swallowed.
This time, we are going to insist that they go back in and find out for better or worse whats going on in there. We can't to see the dog going down hil anymorel, nor can we continue to fork out money on treatments that aren't working.
I really do think that this visit is going to be make or break.
Bazzer

chicken feed

dont get me on the rant on vets i took my 10 month old border terrier to the vets as she was carrying her left back leg 300 pounds just to be told me she needed a operation i took her home to wait and after two days she started to use the leg i had told them she had had a mad 5 mins with my daughters border pup and thought she had just sprained her leg but no they said she needed this op i took her back and they would not comment.

on the other hand i wish you and winnie all the luck in the world
bodger

Kaz has just phoned, the dog is going to have the opp and we have to ring at noon to see what they've found.
Issy

Fingers crossed they find out what it is and can sort it.
Scottie

Hope all will be well and you get the right result  
emsley

I have wondered how Winnie has been since your last post - so sorry that she has gone downhill.
Good luck for this visit today to the vets, let's hope something positive comes out of it - either way. They mean so much to us, don't they?
kaz

She's out of surgery and they feel that all her problems are been caused by adhesions following the surgery she had back in February. They are keeping her in for 24 hours which she will not be happy about
chicken feed

  hope shes back to herself soon
conundrum

Oh darn, that is one of the things I thought it might be, I hope they have sorted it.

Fingers crossed for Winnie. 056.gif
kaz

I've been advised (not by the vets) that a raw diet would still be best for her as it digests more quickly so hopefully we will keep her on it when she comes home.

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