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rhino

pig problem

I've just been told that about a month ago my boar was in with a group of gilts, The guy who saw him knew he shouldn't have been there so got him back to where he should be with a bucket of nuts. The thing is these gilts are around 7 months old now, and I reckon there's only one reason the old fella was down there. Also I reckon there's only one reason he was moved so easily. The question is how do I tell if they're in pig and is there an option to abort. They were due to go in the next couple of weeks so this is a real blow. Having said that I'm glad I found out.....
bodger

I'm not sure what you can do. Were you going to keep them or send them in for the chop? At a month possibly pregnant, I would imagine that the meat would be OK but our OTG  pig people might have different views.
rhino

They were for the chop, I've injected heifers where the bulls got to them but not sure with pigs. I'll give the vet a shout see what he says   It was only by chance I saw this chap but I can't send them in in pig so may have to farrow them. Bugger  
hughesy

Why can't you send them if they're only a month in. The meat will be fine and there won't be enough development of any pregnancy for the abattoir vet to even notice. And even if they did? Also if they were given any drug to abort a pregnancy there will very likely be a withdrawal period to consider.
rhino

Ok it's probably me but I don't like the idea of sending a pregnant animal to slaughter. I know the meat would be fine and it's only a month etc, I know there'd be withdrawal if aborted and none of it makes sense but I'm still not comfortable with sensing them in while in pig. It's just me I suppose      
hughesy

I would imagine that quite a few gilts that go to slaughter have been seen to by young boars in the litter and are possibly a little bit pregnant. I've never heard it raised as an issue but I bet it happens.
rhino

Yeah it's just me being a softy, mind you I'm giving up, a branch was brought down in the high winds and took a fence line out. So I got there and the boar was sat among the gilts again looking smug
hughesy

The thing with pigs is they're in charge, not us, we just have to work round what they want to do most of the time.
rhino

Was it Churchill who said "a dog looks up to you, a cat looks down on you, a pig will look you square in the eye"  
hughesy

I think it was. And it's very true.
ecomumof4

rhino wrote:
Ok it's probably me but I don't like the idea of sending a pregnant animal to slaughter. I know the meat would be fine and it's only a month etc, I know there'd be withdrawal if aborted and none of it makes sense but I'm still not comfortable with sensing them in while in pig. It's just me I suppose      
 

Good for you. I agree with your morals.

I used to farm on an outdoor intensive unit and if we accidentally sent something in pig we were fined heavily.
I'm not sure how it works smaller scale, but I'd take the chance and farrow them.

Can you sell suckling pigs?
hughesy

It's not like there's any cost involved keeping them on till they farrow and feeding sows with litters is it.
rhino

Aye that's the thing it could be as many as 100 piglets not to mntion feeding the gilts for another few months. Then when they come to slaughter they'll all have to be tested  
Went to vet's yesterday for the jabs and he'd not left them for me    So it'll be Monday now,  
hughesy

Jeepers 100 piglets all at once would be an absolute nightmare. A rough calculation in my head turns up a figure of about 10 bags of feed a day when they're a couple of weeks old! And it goes down hill from there!
rhino

10gilts with 10 each (their mothers routinely have between 8 and 13) and they've been served by their dad just doesn't work for me. Monday will see it done I hope.
Fowgill Farm

Highly unlikely they were all in season at the same time at six mths old it depends how long your boar was in there?
I would send them off for meat asap at seven moths they shld be big enough to go. The aborting drug is not 100% guaranteed in pigs and will be expensive for you to do them all.
just my opinion.
Mandy
olde9856

Yep agree with Mandy, get rid ASAP
rhino

Many thanks for the advice.

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