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Lloyd

Paper log makers

We have an unlimited supply of newspapers, so would like to make them into logs for the fire. Has anyone on here tried this, or know much about it?

Anyone got a log maker they'd like to sell us?
Gareth

Lloyd, are you talking about the manual box type one, with the big lever for compressing the paper?

I had one of them many moons ago. bdooly hard work, and you will need the volume of paper that the average size council's recycling centre skips can accomodate just to make a few logs.

Having said that, they do burn for a long time, throwing out many thousands of BTUs
dtalbot

Had one ages ago, like Gareth said mega hard work and took ages for the logs to dry enough to catch light, plus mine only lasted a few weeks before the lever bent from the force needed to squish the paper into the bricks!
Lloyd

Hm...that's a bit disappointing. We get given about a dozen newspapers a week, and don't want to waste them. There's only so many that can go into a compost heap.
HonkHonk

We have one, we got it from CAT (Centre of Alternative Technology) in North Wales (Google it) it cost about 30 if I remember rightly.
I just wait until I have a sackful of newspapers, then tear them into strips, soak them in buckets of water for a few hours or overnight, then load em in and compress the water out, they do take a while to fully dry out if you only have radiators to do the job as I have.
So what I do now is do it when i'm on nights and stack them in an old locker in work.
We use them when camping, as Gareth says they do burn for a long time and are also good for getting the fire started.
The maufacturers say that the average broad sheet is enough to make one brick.
A tip though, dont try to use other types of paper as I did, I have a shreader and used the contenets of that, but the paper dosnt bind together and the bricks fall apart.
Lloyd

Spose I could stack them in the airing cupboard, or the loft gets stupidly hot in the summer, then gradually build a stockpile for winter?
kaz

We used to have one and soaked the strips of paper in an old dustbin.
I seem to remember that we stacked them loosely in the garage for them to dry out. It was time consuming so the fad didn't last long rolleyes.gif
moocher

i only get just enough papers to light the fire.  :-)
Lloyd

Okay, so from getting your newspapers together to turning out a log, how long does that take?
HonkHonk

If you soak the newspaper for a couple of hours then put it in the log maker, that bit should take you about 30 secods, then its just down to drying it, if you have a log burner they should dry out pretty fast on top of that, on our radiators it takes about 3 days, but I dont normally have them on very high. (too tight) :q28:
Lloyd

Thanks for that, Honky. I'm not put off, except by the purchase price from new, so now looking for a second hand one.  
Pilsbury

could you not make your own? dont laugh and hear me out.
Do they have to be log shaped? I only ask as I was thinking about this while gazing at my little used cheese press, surly it is the same principle.
if you got a elngth of drain pipe, say 12" long and used a follower and BIG weight, would that not work?
place the drainpipe in a holder on a base and fill to the top with your soaked paper and then pop in a follower and put say 10 kg on top, it could stay there until your next paper mix was ready then push ont and reload and then leave your round logs to dry.
Just a thought
Lloyd

Dunno. The conventional paper logs look like house bricks. Want to sell me your little used cheese press and I'll give it a try when not making cheese?
Pilsbury

the one I have would not do it but im sure a length of down pipe and a few bricks would do it.
also I was thinking about a loaf tin with small holes drilled into it for the water to drain out and loading a shapped follower in the top and a few house bricks on top.
Lloyd

Sounds feasible. This is one for Gareth really. He's already making me a cheese press, and has made some Bradley smoker bisquettes.

I wonder how much pressure is required to extract the water?....Obviously, the more pressure, the faster he process. Maybe improvising with a bottle jack might help?
Pilsbury

is it much different from making cheese? you have a soggy mass full of liquid that has to be pressed out with out the mass leaving at the same time so start off with a lower pressuer and then wind it up as the mass gets firmer, once it holds together take it from the mould and leave to mature/dry.........
Lloyd

I have a large industrial scale bench mount for a drill. I could mount the mould in the top if that with my trolley jack beneath, resting on the feet, then wind it up as the expelled fluid comes down....
JD

There is one on www.two3five.com
moocher

in the self sufficiency book they say tightly wrap the newspaper round some wood and soak in the center used oil/fat dont know if thats any help
mrutty

Careful on adding fat and oil if it's a glass fronted burner as it's not good for it, lots of build up inside and the risk of over firing it.

Yes soak the paper in water for a day or two a squeese out the water as per any of the ones on my site. I have seen a pressure one using a car jack which gets rid of water very quickly. Don't be tempted to make logs dry as you just end up with lots of flame and ash.

When I get home and finally get March's recipe I'll update my site with a few more log making systems.

If you come down to Devon I have a few paper log makers for sell.
Morlan75

Sorry to "Dig Up" a old thread but...

Glad I found this just the other night I was on about these paper fire brick gadgets and was going to eventually try and get one!, I wont be now because today im doing an experiment :-? I'm trying the pipe and brick method sounds much more economical with bits and pieces just lying around my garden tbh.
Bex

How fast could you make them with the drainpipe and weight method?
The custom built press can churn them out as fast as you can load and press them so that you make a batch at a time.
Lloyd

Have you got one, Bex? :-)
confused

hi, i have made few logs ,i started with a bought log maker it's fine and works ok, but ive tried a few other ways,
1) i cut the top of old 1ltr wax cardboard milk cartons cut a few v shaped slots in them ,placed a bit ply with a few holes bored in it on the top stood! on it ,they were fine and the plan is just burn the lot,( i have the advantage of being big!)
2) same idea just used old soft drink bottles, and then slit them and removed the plastic,
i have'nt got a fire but a few people where i work are desperate to  try them, i have the advantage that have them in an old shed to dry them in ,an endless supply of milk cartons, drink bottles, and shredded paper, i hasten to add i also like pottering around on wet dreary days rather than sitting in the house, i also love the idea of a freebie !!!
hspb

Hi, I'm not claiming to be an expert at this, as I am somewhat new to this as well.  I have not made any paper logs from a store bought paper log maker, but I have made some from a press I made like I saw on youtube.com.  It is good to use a paper shredder as it cuts your news paper in to manageable peaces.  Fill a five gallon bucket about 1/2 the way full with your shredded news paper and then put enough water in the bucket to completely submerge all of the paper.  Let this soak for 2 days.  After the 2 days, use a drill, corded or cordless, it does not matter, and mix this into a slurry. (I have seen something as simple as a metal rod, bent into what looks like a letter "J," used as a mixer.  Just make sure it fits whatever drill you are going to be using.)  Once you have this grey, soupy, "slop," you know it is going to be ready to use.  If you are going to transfer the "slop" by hand, use a pair of gloves that are COMPLETELY waterproof...surgical gloves or even the yellow dish washing gloves will be fine.  The point of the gloves is that this "slop" is going to make your hands VERY dry and the ink, from the newspapers, will make your hands dirty as well.  You can also use a small container to transfer the "slop" from the bucket to your log maker.  Once you have your "slop" in your log maker, it is all downhill from there.  If you have any of the "slop" that spills out of the holes of your log maker, simply scoop the extra up and put it back in your bucket and use it for your next brick.  

Hope this helps you out some as well.  

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