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polaris

Old Fruit Trees

Is there anywhere I can pick up slightly older fruit trees than those you find in the regular shops and nurseries. I'm looking to get a head start on a few fruit trees such as plums and apples and pears, and was wondering if there's anywhere that you can buy older ones, maybe around the 10/15 year mark? I'm only looking to buy 1/2 of each.

I understand these would be rare and probably very expensive, but for the sake of 10/15 years I think it would be worth it, and I'm more than able to transport said tree, and research the needs of completely transplanting an older tree that would need to be very carefully treated and looked after during and after the process. I'm only interested in looking into suppliers and prices at the moment, as I wouldn't be looking to buy for over a year or two.

Are there any other varieties that you think I should look into that would do well in sandy soil, well guarded against wind, but able to handle frost/snow and heavy rain. (obviously I can work on the drainage but as a start it would be good to know which do better)

I'm interested in Plums, Apples, Pears, Cherries and Nectarines, as well as any you'd recommend on top[ of those.

Any recommendations on the best varieties for North Scotland? The spot is full sun (when we get sun), and well protected from the wind by a high orchard wall.

On a side note, if I knew where a grand old tree was, is there any way to dig it up and move it? I have one that must be 40 years old at the current property and would do anything to take it with me. Would the stress be too much?
Lorrainelovesplants

Moving established trees usually results in shock and death.  If they are growing in the ground you would need an excavator and a lareg hole just to get the root system out (think everything you see above the ground being mirrored underneath).
Then you have the logistics of keeping this damp and moving it to the new place.  Then you have to plant to the same depth and keep watering for at least a year to prevent shock and death.
This process would need to be done between Dec and end January to have ant real chance of success.
For trees in pots, I personally wouldnt buy anything older than a 2 year old as the roots will be going round and round the pot and the tree will probably already be stressed.
Digindeep

LLP..totally agree...there is no quick way......

Older trees would have to be in barrels, you would need one heck of a lot of heavy equipment, not only to move them, but to dig out and plant them. Not forgetting the preparation work to do so.

There are to my knowledge no quick answers to , how shall I say instant/quick gardens...
Border

You'll be needing one of this Polaris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZk8dagzQ
Rena

Digindeep wrote:
LLP..totally agree...there is no quick way......

Older trees would have to be in barrels, you would need one heck of a lot of heavy equipment, not only to move them, but to dig out and plant them. Not forgetting the preparation work to do so.

There are to my knowledge no quick answers to , how shall I say instant/quick gardens...


Yep, I totally agree....no 'quick/instant' garden options.

Though I empathise! How nice it would be to plop a full grown fruit tree in the ground and harvest fruit in no time at all!
sod

I am going to vote the other way   we bought apple and pear trees from an orchard that was being taken out, about 6'-8' tall and replanted here 6years ago and they are still going. These trees were planted on top of weed matting so they had a big shallow root spread and easy to feed with natural food and push over  
rhino

There are specialist companies that supply mature trees, maybe a chat with them would be useful.
polaris

rhino wrote:
There are specialist companies that supply mature trees, maybe a chat with them would be useful.


This is what I was looking for, I've heard of them but can't find any in the UK.

I have a possible 5k I'd be willing to put to having the original tree moved and rehomed and would do all the tender loving care it needed for years if need be. It means a great deal to me. It isn't an enormous thing and I have a lorry in the family that it plus double its general "top" size, of root system would fit in, soil an all.
I also have an obliging builder uncle (lorry owner) who has one of those giant digger things, with the scoop on the end. The ground is soft and well worked and not rocky, so I think it would be reasonably easy to dig it out, I was just wondering if it would take to the new soil, or if the new terrain would kill it outright.

I know what I'm proposing is absolutely ludicrous but it would only have to move about 15 miles, all of which is easy, it's just the digging up and replanting part that would be the trouble.

I thought if I dug it up with the majority of its root system still in the dirt, wrapped this tight, and wrapped the tree tight to prevent snapping and damage, then lorried it to its new home and dug it back in with plenty of good fertilizers. The soil at the new home is perfect for apples, but I'd rather leave it behind than have a large chance of killing it if I'm honest.
Border

If you look at the link I posted earlier in this thread you will have seen that it is possible to move mature trees with good results.

Here are some links to companies that relocate mature trees, there is also a price list on one site, it's not as expensive as you might think.

http://www.civictrees.co.uk/

http://www.naturefirst.co.uk/

http://www.savatree.com/mature-tree-transplants.html

There are more just google "tree moving service" hope this is of help.
darkbrowneggs

http://www.barcham.co.uk/trees-for-sale/buy-apple-malus-james-grieve

http://www.barcham.co.uk/tree-product-index/D/M


A few more links for you, or just google "buy mature trees"  -  but I planted whips about 4 or 5 years ago and they fruited almost immediately and have produced regularly, though not all heavily ever single year ever since and are a nice little mixed orchard now.
polaris

Border wrote:
If you look at the link I posted earlier in this thread you will have seen that it is possible to move mature trees with good results.

Here are some links to companies that relocate mature trees, there is also a price list on one site, it's not as expensive as you might think.

http://www.civictrees.co.uk/

http://www.naturefirst.co.uk/

http://www.savatree.com/mature-tree-transplants.html

There are more just google "tree moving service" hope this is of help.


Sorry border, I totally missed your link! Will go look at it later when im not on my phone. I also found a nice site with small trees called Botanica which I liked.
I'm struggling atm with only internet on my phone! So everythings tiny lol
goodlife

Border wrote:
You'll be needing one of this Polaris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZk8dagzQ


I want one fantastic
kat_lewis

wow  
polaris

Border wrote:
You'll be needing one of this Polaris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZk8dagzQ


Holy cow! Well..... I'd like to see it do that with dome of our ground up here, we've got boulders bigger than that scoop!! Very good idea in theory though for parks with no rocks

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