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bodger

Not our history but someone elses.

I couldn't stop reading this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resourc...940d8-5f8f-4fd4-ac12-e216184a9a72
Juli

Father left his medals to his oldest grandson, who probably does not know what they are from or even know where they are now.  I do not think he would care.

But I have Father's discharge papers and - much more special to me, I have his dog-tags.  They hang on the wall beside my monitor - probably still the original tape that he wore round his neck - and I take it down every year and wear it on 11 November.

I also have his shoe/boot brushes, stamped with his army number, his name, and Jew.  I can understand why that was necessary on his dog-tags, but why on shoe brushes?
bodger

Which army was he in Juli ? I agree with what you say, unless of course the other soldiers had C of E or Catholic on their brushes. but I doubt they did.
Toddy

It might simply mean that they'd never be/been used with polish made from pig or other unsuitable animal. (mind that the carbon black in it's purest form is obtained from burned bone (bone black) http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/indiv/overview/boneblack.html

This question tickled something in my memory from years ago, and knowing that that was the answer (at least at the time I remembered the topic arising) I googled to little effect. However, there is one discussion on a Jewish forum that talks about using Kiwi polish because it is acceptable with the clear understanding that others are not.

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/...r-shoe-polish-to-blacken-tefillin

I believe that the Raj had similar issues with some of the cartridges used in the Indian sub-continent. They had to have the end bitten off, but for a while the cartridges were reputedly made with pigskin products.

Ration Packs too are still labelled according to various dietary requirements.
I didn't know why Kiwi was the preferred polish though in the kit care packages

M
sod

I am a KIWI and don't know how it got it's name but we did have it here    
My fathers medals were collected by his sister as my parents split up and Mum remarried I never got to know about them till last year. He was in the 2nd NZEC and went to middle east to start with.
Juli

bodger wrote:
Which army was he in Juli ? I agree with what you say, unless of course the other soldiers had C of E or Catholic on their brushes. but I doubt they did.


British Army in WWII

Both my paternal and maternal grandfathers served in the British Army in WWI and Father, his two brothers and Mother's only brother served in the British Army in WWII

When I took my children camping in France - my daughter was 10 and my son 8 - we visited the huge  resting places in Normandy - I have photos somewhere but with no printer/copier I cannot put them on the computer.

It was a glorious summer day, very sad for me as I was born in WWII so grew up with the knowledge, but the children learned a lot.  One thing they did learn was the reason why there were different headstones, all mixed together.  Most had crosses but those of known Jews had the Star of David [actually it is called the Shield of David].  And they were all  - not sure how to say this, but all mixed together.  As they fought together, died together, so they were laid to rest together.

The same as the officers and regular soldiers, and those who were not identified were also all with each other.  "Here lies a soldier known but to G-d" - all together.  

I think that only Jews were identified by religion but I do not know, probably because we do not use crosses.

There was a beautiful chapel which was for all religions - and I am so glad that I took the children there.
Seabird

Toddy wrote:
It might simply mean that they'd never be/been used with polish made from pig or other unsuitable animal. (mind that the carbon black in it's purest form is obtained from burned bone (bone black) http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/indiv/overview/boneblack.html

This question tickled something in my memory from years ago, and knowing that that was the answer (at least at the time I remembered the topic arising) I googled to little effect. However, there is one discussion on a Jewish forum that talks about using Kiwi polish because it is acceptable with the clear understanding that others are not.

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/...r-shoe-polish-to-blacken-tefillin

I believe that the Raj had similar issues with some of the cartridges used in the Indian sub-continent. They had to have the end bitten off, but for a while the cartridges were reputedly made with pigskin products.

Ration Packs too are still labelled according to various dietary requirements.
I didn't know why Kiwi was the preferred polish though in the kit care packages

M



Aren't Hindus (and vegetarians) having the same issues with the new £5 note which is said to contain beef fat?
Juli

Seabird wrote:

I didn't know why Kiwi was the preferred polish though in the kit care package


I do not know, but "Kiwi" is a brand of shoe polish, whatever colour it is. †I can still buy it here although not other brands. †

Seabird wrote:

Aren't Hindus (and vegetarians) having the same issues with the new £5 note which is said to contain beef fat?


From what I know, the percentage of non-permitted fat is so little that too much is being made of something which actually is unimportant. †It is not something that is assur - forbidden - by Jews. If I can try to explain it, milk and meat must not be mixed. †So what do you do when milking a cow and it puts its hoof in it?

If there is 95% milk to 5% meat, that is acceptable unless it is deliberate.

The same goes for 95% meat to 5% milk. †Unless, as I say, it was deliberate.

I do not live in the UK now therefore have never come across the new †£5 notes, but nothing I have read here has said that they are assur.  Forbidden.
Toddy

Sometimes the courtesies of the past can seem very patronising or even offensive now, when it truly was never the intent.

We were told that the Scottish fivers didn't have tallow in them. Turns out that was a mistake and that they do have 0.003%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38169194

M

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