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Rena

Knitting socks...help?

I'm planning on making my daughter a pair of socks for her birthday, (maybe even a few if I can get better at it!).
I've made socks before..... But..... Well, I'm self taught and quite just a novice, having loads to learn.

So, my questions...

Why are the cuff so loose?

And when I work the heel, sometimes I get a bit of an 'airy' look down the sides of the heel connecting to the foot, that I know aren't supposed to be there...? (Not sure I'm describing it right, so feel free to ask).

Became so discouraged that I put them away years ago... however, the sock yarn basket is where I can see it and every time I walk by ....


Hoping someone can help me work this through.
Yorkshire Geordie

When I were but a lad my Mum taught me the rudiments of knitting.
I managed to knit myself a scarf that started out 6 inches wide and finished up about a foot wide and over 3 feet long.  
My loops got more, looser and I gave up in disgust.  

To assist you, Rena, the best I could do is advise a good site to try:-
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/con...e-basic-topdown-sock-pattern.html

Please don't do what I found very easy to do and that is split the loops on your needle - if I started with 20 then after what seemed a few hours I'd count 40 no bother!  

Good luck.
Martyn
Rena

Thank you, YG, so much for the link ... Thankfully I've made it past the basics of keeping the right amount of stitches on the respective needless  
Woodburner

Re: Knitting socks...help?

While I'm quite a good knitter, but I've never actually tried socks. My grandma was so good at them, that mine would be rubbish by comparison.

Rena wrote:
Why are the cuff so loose?

 They shouldn't be actually loose, just, not tight. iysim

Rena wrote:

And when I work the heel, sometimes I get a bit of an 'airy' look down the sides of the heel connecting to the foot, that I know aren't supposed to be there...? (Not sure I'm describing it right, so feel free to ask).


Are you making increases for the heel? My increases, are never as neat as decreases, so do look loose/holey. If I ever try knitting socks, I will try and find a way involves picking up stitches from an edge rather than doing two stitches into one.
Just had a good look at some that g'ma knitted, and that does seem to be how she did them. They have quite odd looking heels compared to shop ones.

ETA have just looked at YG's link, and have realised that's the way g'ma made hers, so can't have been picking up stitches along an edge after all.  

E again TA g'ma's heels weren't so complicated after the increase section, but she did put shaping into the leg, which does help them  stay up.   And it is picking up stitches along an edge just not all in the same row like I originally thought.
bodger

Karen is a smashing sock maker, I'll make sure that she see's this thread.
WhatCameFirst

Re: Knitting socks...help?

Rena wrote:

And when I work the heel, sometimes I get a bit of an 'airy' look down the sides of the heel connecting to the foot, that I know aren't supposed to be there...? (Not sure I'm describing it right, so feel free to ask).


Are you making increases for the heel? My increases, are never as neat as decreases, so do look loose/holey.


I reckon it is almost impossible for them not to look holey!  Beyond that Rena, I'm not a great sock knitter. You might remember the single glove I posted on FB last year.. never got beyond that one!
kaz

I did a lot of research when I started knitting socks    and although the usual method is to knit them from the cuff to the toe I always do it the other way around - toe to cuff.

It means that I always know when I am going to run out of wool - less wool means shorter socks    and you don't have to pick up stitches to turn the heel.

I don't know if you can get onto this UK forum form over there but they have a whole section on knitting socks (I know, some would say that is sad!).

http://www.knittingforums.org.uk/

My 'Sock Bible' is Socks from the Toe Up by Wendy D Johnson - I don't actually knit the patterns because I soon realised that I didn't think that socks should have holey patterns on them but I use the stitch counts from the basic patterns and the advice about cast ons and offs.

(It can all get very technical - I now knit two socks at a time on magic loop needles, I use Jenny's magic cast on and the Turkish cast off )
Rena

Thank you so much! I'll have to check that forum link the next time I get a chance to be online. Thanks so much for the info.... Am starting to get a bit of hope that I may have some decent socks in the making this year! (Really, really like the idea of toe to cuff!)
bodger

It looks as though its an American book.  

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet...ts=t&tn=socks+from+the+toe+up
Rena

Thank you so much, bodger! Looks like I'll be buying in the near future!
Rena

Well, the circular needles were ordered and have arrived.

I YouTubed socks from the toe up and found some great instructional videos!

Am quite sold on the 'magic' loop method! And totally love the toe up aspect as well!

Another question I have though is, if stitches have to be taken out, how do you do it? I kept taking the whole sock apart and starting over... But there has to be a better way.

Anyone to help?? I would be SO totally grateful!
bodger

I've just told Kaz about your query.
kaz

I'm glad that you are liking the technique

I'm not sure what you mean about having to take stitches out?
If you find that you have made a mistake you should be able to pick the stitches back one at a time to get to the mistake - I agree that it is very difficult to just pull the socks off the needles, pull back to rectify the mistake then pick up the stitches on the 2 needles again - but it is possible and it gets easier with practice

A little tip .......use a little stitch holder about 4 stitches from the end of one of your rows so that you can tell back from front and know when you have done a full round.

Can't wait to see your first sock - remember that you need a loose cast off - I use the Russian cast off

(Just waiting until you get the hang of one sock before I suggest that you look up knitting two socks together, toe up on magic loop needles. )
Yorkshire Geordie

Bloomin 'eck.  
It wasn't that difficult when I was knitting my first sampler/scarf.  
My mum used to knit socks for me and my bros. and she used a very long, curly double ended flexible plastic needle.
Can't remember her knitting two socks together on one needle though - that sounds too technical for me.  
I look forward to seeing some illustrative photographs of this work.  
Martyn
bodger

I've hardly got a non Karen made sock in my sock draw, they're absolutely brilliant.  ButI have however put my foot down when it comes to her knitting underpants for me. Those hand knitted Arran gussets don't half chafe.
Rena

kaz wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean about having to take stitches out?
If you find that you have made a mistake you should be able to pick the stitches back one at a time to get to the mistake - I agree that it is very difficult to just pull the socks off the needles, pull back to rectify the mistake then pick up the stitches on the 2 needles again - but it is possible and it gets easier with practice
You got it right on, kaz. That's what I was struggling with. Picking them one at a time does seem to be a better route compared to starting over each time I make a mistake.

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A little tip .......use a little stitch holder about 4 stitches from the end of one of your rows so that you can tell back from front and know when you have done a full round.
Thank you! That's perfect!

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Can't wait to see your first sock - remember that you need a loose cast off - I use the Russian cast off
...Russian..? Or Turkish? Of course, I'm no where near that point... Yet..?

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(Just waiting until you get the hang of one sock before I suggest that you look up knitting two socks together, toe up on magic loop needles. )
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! ...I might go mad if you did!
kaz

Russian  
Rena

Thank you!  thought I'd seen 'Turkish castoff' in an earlier post... I confuse easily

Am half way up the foot, heading for the heel... Totally loving this method so far!
kaz

What sort of heel are you going for?
Rena

The gal in the video calls it a 'short row heel'.

I started with this video:

https://youtu.be/HU53rc7z_0o

And this is the next one:

https://youtu.be/0Os1aDRdI_w

What do you think?

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