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bodger

I say stuff the big developments

Like the proposed Severn Barrage and the extension of the nuclear idustry  and focus our attempts instead on thousands of local and even individual household innitiatives.l

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7693973.stm

To my mind hundreds of thousands of small garden sized wind turbines all feeding into the National Grid would be preferrable to the hundreds of blots on the landscape that are appearing now. Not practical you may say but even if only a tenth of the money thats going into the nuclear industry were to spent on these problems, then I'm quitre sure that they could be solved.
Its been shown time after time that small really can be beautiful.
Gareth

I've got to agree with you Mate.

Every household should have one of those small wind turbines producing electricity for domestic consumption. Then when not producing for the household it should be diverted into the National Grid for commerce and Industry.

I live on top of a hill in Norwich, which is the highest point between here and the coast 20 miles away, and when a North Easterly blows in off the North Sea, my flat is bdooly freezing. It would be nice to be producing my own sparks for my consumption without having to worry too much about the bill.

As for the Birds? Well, I reckon that the RSPB  and other ornithologist groups are spinning a myth for their own political gains. The urban population of Sparrows, Tits, and other speices would adapt, and very quickly.
Alice

We've looked into 2kw and 6kw turbines here, the type that feeds into the grid, but until the electric companies start paying a decent price per unit for our surplus - something close to what they want to charge us for their units     - it's just not economically feasible. Really irks us though as we have the *textbook* position at this house, the right gradient from the sea, sea on both sides, constant wind (no rude comments please   ) If they paid a decent rate, owning a 6kw turbine would be as good as a pension!
Pilsbury

I have aperfect roof for solar panels, and would happily rent it to the power companiers for a 25% reduction in what they charge me for my power, they install and maintain it but as fae as i am concerned its doing nothing for me and I cant afford to install it myself so if it costs me nowt they are welcom to use the space, but they wont.
if they approched all 100 houses on my side of the street and they all agreed i bet they could economically install 100 units a reap the benifits, the costs would be low because they would be buying millions of units and instalation teams would work along the whole street.
green man

If they had found as much  money for small renewable's as they had on baling the banks out we wouldn't have a recession as the employment involved would be wealth creating in many ways.    Governments are only good at patching things up ,we need to think small big now- not when it's too late!
Gareth

green man wrote:
If they had found as much  money for small renewable's as they had on baling the banks out we wouldn't have a recession as the employment involved would be wealth creating in many ways.    Governments are only good at patching things up ,we need to think small big now- not when it's too late!



Come on GM, our Gov'T is not as far thinking as to actually manufacture here in the UK

The turbines would all be made in China, and all the installations would all carried out by Eastern European labourers.
BorderReiver

Apparently if every house in the UK had solar panels on the roof we wouldn't need half of our power stations.

Also, if you are having your roof re-done, it's not that much more expensive to use PV tiles and turn your whole roof into a PVA.

It would be a lot cheaper for HMG to subsidise these individual units than pay all the money to multi national corporations.
Christine

Some lots of people live in flats and maisonettes - technology seems to have passed these folks by with regard to green heating.  

What is required is investment in social housing - when all the basic things like double glazing, loft and cavity insulation, boiler updates and such are in place (2010 is the supposed target date) then money should be put into adding green technology (ground source, biomass, solar panels, turbines, shared schemes for flats and maisonettes) to every such property. This would help those who are supposed to be the poorest in society (!) and would bring down the cost of green technology thus making it cheaper for other households to be able to use it.  

Just a passing thought.

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