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daddymatty82

i may have got...

my first rabbit permish. im waiting on contact to go down and look at the land with a friend as its his kit il be using. basicly every one this person has said will come with ferrets have not got back to her so i said i would pop up with a whippet and a lamp. and this person has almost said yes   and will be glad to give me written permission  its about 10 acres and is over run with them she has said 1 earth has about 20 holes into it. so im looking to get a couple ferrets and go have a look. she has said she rents the land and the owner is away but is happy for pest control  so now im hoping i may get more land like this
bodger

The first one is always the hardest.
lizzie44

God I wish you were nearer! The rabbits at the farm are out of control!! Love Lizzie
Jonty

lizzie44 wrote:
God I wish you were nearer! The rabbits at the farm are out of control!! Love Lizzie


Hey Lizzie,

I know of a couple of fully insured chaps down your neck of the woods who'd be up for sorting your rabbits out if you needed it.  Give us a shout if you want someone to help you out.

Failing that, I've a hankering myself to get back down and visit the Fat Cat in Norwich........
12Bore

Jonty wrote:
I've a hankering myself to get back down and visit the Fat Cat in Norwich........

Son lives 5 mins walk from there, cracking wee pub
escape

Well done Matty  
Jonty

12Bore wrote:
Jonty wrote:
I've a hankering myself to get back down and visit the Fat Cat in Norwich........

Son lives 5 mins walk from there, cracking wee pub


It is a good 'un isn't it
sod

Great stuff we will hear all about your huntint there we hope  
daddymatty82

well picking me friend up at 1730 and meeting the woman at the place at 1800. its on an estate by sounds of it so am bit nervous but oh well will have a few nights lamping with the dogs should be fun. its right next to the a420 so only up road from police station so am making sure i got permission written and numbers to give if i get stopped. if i remember the fields roughnly i seen rabbits out in the open in middle of day aswell so it should be fun. iv been asked to eradicate the bunnies so i wont stop. torment on them. she wanted ferrets to start off with but came back to me with the offer of dogs. wish me luck. also any advice? cheers matty
horace

Happy hunting  
hopefullbry

Well done Matty , if there are a lot  of rabbits there and you are lamping.

You might catch a few, but  the dog will be spoilt for choice went sent out on the beam, and more will run away escape    i would be as selective as possible at first keep the the nearest to the boundaries.

The rabbits will become educated quite soon if you lamp it  to often ( lampshy )  As the lady wants them eradicated sounds like you are going to have to use a few different methods, Longnets/ shooting/ cage trapping etc.
This time of year ferreting is hardwork ( lots of cover growing & and lots of young rabbits which the ferrets killin below and you end up digging alot )

Do a good job on this and you will get recommended    and get more permission from it  

Keep us informed how it working out

Cheers
Bry
daddymatty82

Ok so went and visited place about 10 earths about 15 20 holes  in  each so informed the woman we would like to ferret and dog the land.   And they got problems with Woodpigeon getting to the doves so Il persuade her later for a go on them.  She rents 3-4 paddocks and other people rent the others so we asked if she could let them know were be around and permission as there is say 3 paddocks in one field sort of set up with leccy mains fencing splitting it up  . Now should be a fun few trips out. On written permissions what sort of wording should I get written down? As i ain't got a clue any advice cheers matty
12Bore

Well done Matt, haven't a clue on the wording, but it sounds great!
escape

Nice one Matt,

Looking forward to hearing how you get on  
Jonty

If you google ''BASC permission''  You'l find a couple of their proforma that you can base it on.

My Police Force Firearms Dept have an authority to shoot form on their website, it's not compulastr but as it's in their format and they license me, I tend to use that one.

As you'd be ferreting etc and most permission slips are based on shooting, you'd need to make sure that you include something such as ''and all legal methods of hunting'' to cover you.

If you'll be taking a mate, It's also useful to add ''and may be acompanied by XX persons'' that way the land owner doesn't get peed off, remember that they don't neccessarily know that it's common practice to take someone else with you ferreting

Also, make sure that there's the bare minimum for the land owner to fill in, we all try and convince ourselves that we're doing them a favour by keeping the pest down, but really they're doing us a bigger favour by letting us be there so you don't want to be sending them off with reems of paper to fill in.  Try and make it so that they only have to put their name, address, phone number and signature, that way it can be filled in on the bonnet of a car and away you go.

Insurance is really a must have too, BASC is a lot really at £60 unless you utilise their other member benefits.  The SACS is cheaper at about £30 and bdooly good cover, also at a similar price is NGO.  Obviously the decision is yours but I wouldn't set foot on a piece of land to shoot, fish or trap without insurance.  It's not just shooting that requires cover £30 is peanuts compared to stumping up for the vet bills for a horse that fell down a hole where you've been digging a ferret out.

It's also worth pointing out that it can be good form to offer some of yopur pickings back to the landowner as a thank you, but most people wouldn't thank you for a paunched rabbit left hanging on their door handle like the old days, a jointed rabbit or a few prepared pigeon breasts will always be far more gratefully received.
One for the Pot

daddymatty82 wrote:
Ok so went and visited place about 10 earths about 15 20 holes  in  each so informed the woman we would like to ferret and dog the land.   And they got problems with Woodpigeon getting to the doves so Il persuade her later for a go on them.  She rents 3-4 paddocks and other people rent the others so we asked if she could let them know were be around and permission as there is say 3 paddocks in one field sort of set up with leccy mains fencing splitting it up  . Now should be a fun few trips out. On written permissions what sort of wording should I get written down? As i ain't got a clue any advice cheers matty


Make sure they write what you are there for, I.e Vermin Control for Rabbit, pigeon ect, and what methods you will be using. Also get them to add that you will be on the said land at anytime (if agreed).

Finally, I would always call your local Police Station each time you go out on the land to make them aware. Otherwise if Tom Dick or Harry was to call to say they have seen people on the land, then the Police would be already aware of the situation and not ruin your day/nights fun so to speak. You will be issued with a unique reference number (URN) keep it,then call them back when finished to make them aware and pass on the URN.

Have fun....

daddymatty82

im insured through cpsa till January  which im pretty sure it covers me (not 100%) i think i read somewhere as long as it wasn't illegal hunting im covered. 1st time im insured for guns etc but i thought would be a policy like cars but was just a card with my number on it. as land is split up into paddocks  and about 3 others use the land will i need permission from all parties that i would be/ might be venturing on to there part of land( even though only going under leccy fence) the woman atm has fenced off the land where holes have protruded into her field so horses dont go down the deep burrows i fell down one of them just looking at it. soil look easy to work very sandy mud  so im hoping will be easy and not to deep to dig but have informed i will back fill all holes we make and will collapse all holes after we ferreted each bit. we didnt see much activity all burrows seamed freshly used  but only a few does with kits on top feeding  but we wernt quiet so was expected.
daddymatty82

well went out on friday eve about 5pm text the woman to say friend just got some ferrets  come down to him so would make our way up . so when i got picked up i texted to say we was on-route. when we arrived we said hello got lurcher out box of nets  boots on walked back up track to major problem  earth. so we set up about 20 nets over the holes and then  put the collar on the ferret. stood back and waited then after about 5 mins  we get one  ferret kept coming up and going straight back down so we waited and low and behold a rabbit pops his head out the net looks at me and runs back down . so we knew more was down there so we waited and there it goes the hole we never saw and the dog was on the other side  of fence watching the holes on the track side. it runs off to next earth so we went to worried. we then packed up back filled the holes and went  to next earth in the field  opposite. two burrows and nothing so looked like an escape hole.  packed up backfilled and then went to  look at the hedges  decided to leave some due to length of grass and bramble  found a nice set so netted about 15 burrows and had 1 bolt  and netted 2 so that was 3 deaduns  and the rest for next time . will be taking the air gun i hope next time i pay a visit just need to get a lamp off me friend to see where there running to.

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