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bodger

I'll be topping up the rat poison tomorrow.

I caught my first rat of the season today, so I'll be checking and topping up my bait stations with rat poison tomorrow. When I checked my Fenns this evening, one of them had caught one of the 'orrible' things. I constantly have four Fenns set in tunnel traps around the place and use them as an early indicator that I might have a problem so that I can get the poison down. Ugh ! I detest rats.
attheshorts

what posion do you use?
bodger

Neokil on whole wheat.
MrsWW

I don't use poison here in case the dog catches one when it's ingested poison.  Bait boxes used with peanut butter on toast and a snap-e-trap in there works a treat  
Border

I put few pieces of cheese salami and rosins together with your Neokil and wheat in a plastic bag and shake, so the Noekil also covers the goodies. Mr Rat seems to like these items of food, they have given me some good results.
matt the rat

Hmm, where to start.........

Firstly, the risk of a pet becoming ill due to secondary poisoning is very low.  The way that anti-coagulants work means that they have a cumulative effect, therefore, the 'poison' works it's way through the system of the animal before it feels ill effects.  To have any real effect on a pet, they have to eat a large number of dead rodents (not one or two), so having pets shouldn't really be a barrier to using modern, approved baits.

Secondly, you should NEVER add 'attractants' to ready to use baits.  To do so is an offence under the Control of Pesticides regulations.  Modern, ready to use baits are perfectly attractive if they have been placed correctly, and the impact of adding things to them can be very bad.

The single most important safety precaution that everyone should take when using pesticides of any sort is READ THE LABEL!  I should also add that you should follow the instructions to the letter - that's why they are there.

I see lots of terrible sights in my day to day work; bait thrown loose on the ground where birds etc can get it; heaps of bait far in excess of the recommended placement size; incorrect use of 'indoor only' products; block baits placed where they can easily be carried off by rats; I could go on, and on, and on, and on.............

Personally, I favour whole wheat formulations for rats, and Difenacoum (the active ingredient in 'Neokil') is a very good product.

I know that Bodger has some experience in this field, but if anyone ever needs advice, please feel free to PM me.  I don't charge for advice!
sod

As our weather starts to cool we start getting rats n mice moving to warm places and indoor food souces so we have started putting bait blocks into the pipe thingys and setting traps/catching mice.
Border

matt the rat wrote:
Hmm, where to start.........

Firstly, the risk of a pet becoming ill due to secondary poisoning is very low.  The way that anti-coagulants work means that they have a cumulative effect, therefore, the 'poison' works it's way through the system of the animal before it feels ill effects.  To have any real effect on a pet, they have to eat a large number of dead rodents (not one or two), so having pets shouldn't really be a barrier to using modern, approved baits.

Secondly, you should NEVER add 'attractants' to ready to use baits.  To do so is an offence under the Control of Pesticides regulations.  Modern, ready to use baits are perfectly attractive if they have been placed correctly, and the impact of adding things to them can be very bad.

The single most important safety precaution that everyone should take when using pesticides of any sort is READ THE LABEL!  I should also add that you should follow the instructions to the letter - that's why they are there.

I see lots of terrible sights in my day to day work; bait thrown loose on the ground where birds etc can get it; heaps of bait far in excess of the recommended placement size; incorrect use of 'indoor only' products; block baits placed where they can easily be carried off by rats; I could go on, and on, and on, and on.............

Personally, I favour whole wheat formulations for rats, and Difenacoum (the active ingredient in 'Neokil') is a very good product.

I know that Bodger has some experience in this field, but if anyone ever needs advice, please feel free to PM me.  I don't charge for advice!


While I agree with the post above, I feel have need to explain my post.

Last year I knocked down some old cow sheds to build a new barn, in the process of doing this rats were discovered in the drains. I called in the government employed ratcatcher and he put down some Neokil wheat, in metal and card board tunnels this worked well for a short time then, the rats seemed to loose interest. I could see the rats were not eating any of the wheat, so I called him up again and he came out to have a look.

He arrived and look around the place and agreed that not much of the wheat had been eaten, so he emptied the tunnels, put some Noekil wheat in a plastic bag and asked if I could come with a few pieces of cheese rosins or salami as I had all three in the fridge, so I took him all three, he put this in the plastic bag and mixed it in with the Noekil wheat and then put the mixture in the tunnels.

Over the next few days he came and checked the tunnels and the goodies were being eaten, which resulted in we are rat free today.

My first post was written after this experience, I had with rats loosing interest in in Neokil and not to mislead anyone, maybe I should have explained this in first post.
bodger

The only problem that I've had with Neokil is that snails and or slugs love it. When its used outside they soon find it and ruin it.
bodger

I've also put some wax blocks down for the house mice that are plaguing my pigeon loft. Its some stuff called Tom-Cat.
sapphire

We hate rats too   got 3 bait boxes with neosorexa in, bait in other boxes in sheds, couple of live traps, still got 1 live trap, 1 bait box & 2 break back traps to go out.  Have seen a couple of rats in garden but dont appear to be 'living here' at the mo. There are a few mice around, found mouse poo in one of my guineapigs bowls. Am going to put smaller gauge wire on all my gp huts.

Im trying to persuade OH to have a Jack Russell puppy, our springer isnt a ratter, our last cat died last year so have recently got a kitten, mind you wont be long before  6 month kitten goes out   hes just been neutered & had his 1st jab, hes a right little feisty thing - so look out!!!

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