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bodger

I'd love a Baby Champ!

Well perhaps not  but what I am thinking of doing, is sending some of my cider away to be professionally bottled. In addition to bottling, the company would pasteurize the cider, sweeten it and carbonate it to give it a sparkle.

In doing this, I'm aiming to make my cider a little more main stream and I'm considering this so that my product appeals to the younger customer.
The cider will probably go into a modern looking tall brown bottle and what I'm looking for now, is a spot of inspiration and an upbeat 'trendy' brand name. I've been giving it some serious thought and as of yet, I haven't come up with anything suitable. Anyone got any ideas?

Rest assured, I'm still going to have plenty of the raw materials left to devote to a more traditional still cider. I have the equipment to produce this but the cost of plant to carbonate cider means that I'd have to have the trendy stuff done by a contractor.
12Bore

For those with long memories, make a pear "cider" and call it LLyn Perrie, should go down a bomb in Salford!
bodger

How many people would have the lips for it?
12Bore

bodger

I'm thinking of getting a share in this market.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sales+of+'trendy'+cider+on+the+rise.-a0135329347

If I go ahead with this, it will be a massive step for what is really no more than a one man band operation. The companies minimum through put for one order, is 1600 litres. I'll have to ship 2000 litres down to them in IBC's, which will see me getting more than 4000 bottles back in return. Thats really small potato to them but means a big investment to me and a lot of cider to sell.
I'm still doing my costings at the moment but I think that its going to be the way to go. I definately need that name and image.
12Bore

Linky no worky.
I tracked down the article, bear in mind that it's 7 years old, but I would suggest that it's still very relevant.
I certainly drink cider when out, particularly in summer, and it can be really difficult to get a good cider in most pubs - the same is true of ales, there are too many poor pubs.
The choice in supermarkets is getting much better, Co-op often have deals on - prolly not good for the producer - and Morrisons carry a good range, have to declare an interest, Mrs 12Bore works at M's and I get a discount.
Something like you have in mind would be an ideal premium product for the supermarkets who offer local produce (Booths are particularly strong in this respect) as they could offer exclusivity and charge (and hopefully pay) a premium for smaller quantities. You could find it growing from niche to main product for you, if you can come up with something similar to Aspalls Draught or even their Premier Cru I'd consider the round trip for a dozen cases!
ETA the new Booths at Media City in Salford would be ideal - it's used by all the trendy media types who frequent the area, Knutsford could also be good http://supply.booths.co.uk/
maine moose

Always think of the adage K.I.S.S ,(keep it simple stu_ed) so with that in mind hows adout "Bodgers best" short and its stays in the memory.
Pilsbury

bodgers bubbling best for the sparkling, and I certainly prefer cider to beer or larger anyway.
bodger

Thats good advice Maine Moose and I'll definately keep it in mind.

I'm pretty sure that I've been beaten to it and that there's already a beer sold as Bodgers Bitter.
Mo

What's the welsh word for cider?
kaz

Mo wrote:
What's the welsh word for cider?


Google translation says seidr
Mo

Ah! I use Babelfish and they don't do Welsh  

Not much inspiration there then, eh?
bodger

I'm thinking of calling the still cider that I'll be selling from the farm 'Over the Gate'
12Bore

Cider Idris?
bodger

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
maine moose

Like that one Bodger Over the Gate ticks the boxes sounds  rural and has the thought of going for a pint      
12Bore

For the luxury branding, Dagrau y Penrhyn Lleyn.
Dave C

How long before we can order some bodger
emsley

Bella's Bubbles  
bodger

Dave C wrote:
How long before we can order some bodger


Its the carriage that would cripple the chances of that. You'd be much better off coming down for a holiday on the Lleyn sometime.

Bellas Bubbles ? Mmmhhhhh let me think about that one a bit.
Jonty

Who's Bella??
bodger

This little lady.




Jonty

Nice looking girl, but..........

You're seriously thinking about calling your cider ''horse farts''??
bodger

The cider might no be that good. I could be done on trade descriptions.

Actually, we may very well have some exciting news on the cider front in the next couple of months.
Border

Piddler's dream  

Umpire's devil

Silly leg  

Barmaid's bump

Porker's squawker

Bowled over
bodger

Incoming !!!!!!!!    

Either this Friday or next Monday, I'm having just over 1000 litres of cider in an IBC  delivered. Unlike most of our own cider, this has been made from cider apples and I'll be blending it with our own cider, which has been made with cooking and eating apples. Once its delivered, it will quite literally be all hands to the pump. All in all, we're going to have one heck of a lot of cider to shift.
emsley

Woo Hoo
Exciting times
Mo

I can't imagine 1000 litres of cider  

You're certainly going to have your work cut out  
bodger

At this late stage, only now have I started to ring round with regard to labels and plastic milk bottles etc.  After a five week wait, my excise exemption notice finally came through yesterday.
Bazzer

Coopers?
100 C.C? (Coopers Cider)

Well they make the Casks.
Dave C

Mo wrote:
I can't imagine 1000 litres of cider  

You're certainly going to have your work cut out  


Give me a straw
Dave C

bodger wrote:
Dave C wrote:
How long before we can order some bodger


Its the carriage that would cripple the chances of that. You'd be much better off coming down for a holiday on the Lleyn sometime.

Bellas Bubbles ? Mmmhhhhh let me think about that one a bit.


Not a bad idea mate.

What do you think it would cost to send a Keg my way
bodger

The cider has arrived at the agricultural merchants and it should be here shortly Its just a matter of figuring how and where to sell a couple of thousand litres of cider now.    
12Bore

***goes to find a handcart***  
WhatCameFirst

*puts working hat on*  You really should do a quick search before adopting a new name Bodger, you could get into trouble infringing someone else's rights. (It's my job)  If you need help, I'm happy to. *takes hat off again*  No charge!
bodger

Company name is Morfa Nefyn Orchard and my brew name Over the Gate
bodger

The cider was delivered just after 5.30 tonight.
























The pub has asked for some more cider for this evening, so we'll have to do some bottling but needless to say, we wont be opening this lot up.
bodger

Another 40 pints delivered to the local.
Frazzled_Barbie

Brilliant Bodger - good on ya... love the branding too. Best of luck with the mixing. We have tried blending from 2 of our barrels here but don't think we have got it quite right yet....more drinking..sorry tasting to be done!

bodger

This last barrel only had an ABV of 5% which is a bit of a puzzle  and it was nothing like as dry as the previous lot. I told the pub to call it Mellow Yellow and hopefully, it will sell quite well. I think that its turned out a little more mainstream than the the last lot.
Frazzled_Barbie

We have 2 barrels that came from the same mix of apples etc but are completly different in taste. (maybe our labelling and notes are wrong I suppose). Also we think our ABV has changed too...we where wondering whether the warm temp might have had an effect? I know that the calculation is done at 20 degrees then you have to make slight adjustments.
bodger

We use a hydrometer and then a refractometer to calculate ABV. The refractometer is a smashing piece of kit.
Frazzled_Barbie

bodger wrote:
We use a hydrometer and then a refractometer to calculate ABV. The refractometer is a smashing piece of kit.


The refratometer - we don't have one of them, very high tech, which I am assuming you need if you intend to sell.

We havent reached the selling stage - we use crates of brew to get into friends houses or as bribes for extra pairs of hands when muscle is needed.
bodger

In the last ten minutes, I've had a phone call to say that they've sold out and could they have the same again ASAP.    
Frazzled_Barbie

I was going to say you lucky bugger....but you make your own luck mate....well done.

12Bore

Brilliant!    

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