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imme

How to cut tall trees down without going bankrupt??

We've just had some quotes done for chopping down some trees and nearly choked - 3K  oh.gif

We're talking conifers that are 15m high - some need cutting down to the base, others need trimming down.

We'd like to avoid using a chainsaw (a tree surgeon friend of ours died when he had an accident with a chainsaw - he was fully qualified and trained - and also only in his mid-20s)

We're happy to look at any other alternatives and would be grateful for any suggestions.

thanks
MrsWW

How many trees are there - that quote sounds bdooly expensive?

Are they in an area where it'd be feasible to chop them from the base to get them over and then saw them into manageable chunks, ie, no fear of harm to human beings/livestock?
green man

Practically you will have to allow a chainsaw else it will cost you an arm and a leg plus the person up top trying to take the trees down by hand a length at a time is in danger for longer in theory, OH just had a similar boundary run removed 40ft plus high and twenty five or so in number cost him 450. Took three men all day all wood was chipped and transported a couple of miles to my place to be used as and when a useful resource .

A lot depends on your site access, work space, overhead electricity, cables etc and your request for no chain saw, disposal of tree remains etc.
imme

We're in North Wales

probably about 20 trees.

Chopping them down from the base is an option.


The tree surgeons that gave us the quote would use a chainsaw but the price did not include chopping the trees into manageable bits or removing chippings debris etc
green man

Then they are having a laugh, taking the u- rine. get some more quotes. How very naughty of them, try advertising them free to collector!
imme

green man wrote:
Then they are having a laugh, taking the u- rine. get some more quotes. How very naughty of them, try advertising them free to collector!


I feel better knowing that the quotes are astronomical. Having said that 2 different companies quoted us similar prices.

We've got 2 more companies coming in the next few days to give us quotes so it'll be interesting to see what numbers they pull out of a hat!

how much would you guess would be a fair price?
green man

About 450-650 with the timber chipped or removed. A long days work for three men.
Justme

green man wrote:
About 450-650 with the timber chipped or removed. A long days work for three men.


For 20 trees?


Post some pics cos there could be a reason for the prices. But to be honest for 20 trees that dont sound that bad (150 per tree).

Where in N Wales are you?

Justme
johnbaz

i have two leylandii in my very small front garden, they're around 40' tall (about 15' taller than the house ) they have to come down so that scaffolding can go up to have the tyrolian replaced, my mate at worn does this sort of work in his spare time and said they would be down and chipped in a couple of hours and i believe him (we call him 'undred mile an hour jimmy at work cause if you blink- you'll miss him )
i haven't got a price from him yet but i think it will be a couple of hundred quid, though i want a section of the thickest bit of trunk to mount an anvil on


john

here's a pic- there are actually two leylandii but they are so close together that it looks like one....
there's also a small spruce and a juniper under there, they only have branches on the side that gets a bit of light!!
Justme

Big difference between a "mate" doing it for "beer" money & a pukka company with staff, vehicles, training tickets & insurances. I fell quite a few of my own trees but would not do one that close to my own house with a road (need a road closure order?), wall, lamppost & next doors house all in range. That will need dismatling from the top (so deff need two staff as the H&S needs a ground crew for rescue / spotting) & poss the use of a MEWP or crane.


Justme

PS you are expecting 200 for TWO trees thats still 2k for the TWENTY that needs doing. Again by a mate not a company so 3k does seem about right.


PPS try your local jobbers they might do a better rate but if there is any risk to other property do make sure you see the insurance first.
johnbaz

hello justme

my mate does it 'proper', he does it with his brother, has all the tackle and insurance

he's been on about packing work (at our place) in and doing the gardening thing full time, he has enough work to keep him and his bro going for months but is just a little warey of packing in then the work disappearing

he's always telling me about the jobs that he does at the weekends and after work when he's on mornings, he's reasonable with his pricing and from what i've been told by other pals at work, he does a very good job


john
johnbaz

Justme wrote:
Big difference between a "mate" doing it for "beer" money & a pukka company with staff, vehicles, training tickets & insurances. I fell quite a few of my own trees but would not do one that close to my own house with a road (need a road closure order?), wall, lamppost & next doors house all in range. That will need dismatling from the top (so deff need two staff as the H&S needs a ground crew for rescue / spotting) & poss the use of a MEWP or crane.


Justme

PS you are expecting 200 for TWO trees thats still [b]2k for the TWENTY that needs doing. Again by a mate not a company so 3k does seem about right.[/b]


PPS try your local jobbers they might do a better rate but if there is any risk to other property do make sure you see the insurance first.


but they aren't going to remove the trees in with the price, old jimmy will remove all traces of the trees ever being there...


john
johnbaz

actually unless my maths are bad (and they probably are), ten trees at 200 is 2k so for the twenty (but some of them only need trimming from memory), it would be 4K going by his price


john

yes my maths are bad, i was thinking 200 for one tree    
kaz

What a difference the removal of those trees will make to the light coming into your house
Justme

kaz wrote:
What a difference the removal of those trees will make to the light coming into your house


Will it ever. Our first family home (3rd floor flat) had two  trees right outside. We tried for years to get it taken down. The place was cold, dark, damp & costly to heat & light. We needed lights on in the day as it was so dark. The week we were moving out they did fell them. The difference was amazing even if we only had it for a week.


Ah I see the thing with your mates prices now. He considers his work gardening & not arborcultural. Gardening attracts a much lower wage / job rate than arb work.

If he is worried about the future of the tree work he should check out the arb forums. They are all suffering already with reduced work. I guess there must be pro gardener forums too he could check out.

Justme

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