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andy b

Honda engined bantam

Hi all we have fitted a new Honda engine on to a Howard bantam works very well


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12Bore

Should it not have been a BSA?
magnet

honda bantam

i have the howard 700 with its 350cc villiers its a great machine when i can get it running.
I wonder if that mod would work on mine? i've heard of the kholer diesel being used but they're expensive. Would it be cheeky of me to ask what a modification like that would cost?
What is the spec of that engine hp etc........Thanks Magnet
andy b

bantam

I think some had BSA engine this one had a villiers mk15  nice little tiller not too wide just the job to go up the rows in the garden  
andy b

bantam

Magnet i will pm you
goodlife

hi andy because of the angle of the photo i suspect but you will never get the pulleys to line up    
andy b

Honda engined bantam

HI Goodlife i think it's just the angle of the photo it runs very well 100% happy with it just want the spring to come so i can get on the garden
it's snowing in Norfolk
goodlife

i love the snow it makes my garden look like every body elses
diggerpete1961

Magnet, Several guys from this site below have used a honda clone engine called Loncin to replace worn out motors on powerfab & similar little diggers. I gather results have been good though these diggers are only used on a hobby basis. loncin is said to be the best of the clone engines. See       www.oilyhands.co.uk  
The motors came from here, but it seems they now somehow brand them villiers, but were a direct Honda replacement. Some spares & a deisel are also shown. Just a thought
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pumpsuk/...2784503&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
magnet

diggerpete1961 wrote:
Magnet, Several guys from this site below have used a honda clone engine called Loncin to replace worn out motors on powerfab & similar little diggers. I gather results have been good though these diggers are only used on a hobby basis. loncin is said to be the best of the clone engines. See       www.oilyhands.co.uk  
The motors came from here, but it seems they now somehow brand them villiers, but were a direct Honda replacement. Some spares & a deisel are also shown. Just a thought
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pumpsuk/...2784503&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322



thanks very much for those links, these are just what i've been looking for. Thanks again.......Magnet  
sod

diggerpete1961 wrote:
Magnet, Several guys from this site below have used a honda clone engine called Loncin to replace worn out motors on powerfab & similar little diggers. I gather results have been good though these diggers are only used on a hobby basis. loncin is said to be the best of the clone engines. See       www.oilyhands.co.uk  
The motors came from here, but it seems they now somehow brand them villiers, but were a direct Honda replacement. Some spares & a deisel are also shown. Just a thought
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pumpsuk/...2784503&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322


Thank you for the "oilyhands" site love it we have a Kiwi made 1950s one that is on a tractor
diggerpete1961

I emailed pumpsuk - is actually the ebay trading arm of a firm called W.W. Robinson & Co (were trading in '88 when I bought a foot valve from them)
They say the 'villiers' is still a Honda copy but build & finish actually better than the Loncin brand, & they are happy to replace Honda & Robin engies with these on thier own stuff. The spares they sell fit Honda, Loncin & these 'villiers' clones.
The original Villiers were made I think in Wolverhamton up till the mid/late 70s
diggerpete1961

I forgot to mention there are 3 grades of these little engines as sold by most makers - Briggs, Honda, Techumesh etc.
1) DIY / home use. These have a chromed aluminium block (not reboreable) design running life about 700 hrs
2) Semi Pro. Iron block or internal liner, life about 4000 hrs
3) Fully Pro. As above but often with roller main bearings rather than bushes, greater life than semi pro (varies)
A domestic mower may run 1 hr per wk for 26 weeks a yr - so the 700 hrs is viable, this does though explain how the old cast iron engines seem ageless & bombproof.
sod

Here we have several copys here as son used to sell n service them (small motor mecanic) Lifan is one

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