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ClaireK

Ginger bi**h!

After doing so well with her one day event in mar i took Holly to a local equestrian centre for a lesson with a very well respected and experienced dressage rider. I thoroughly enjoyed the lesson, even if i did get told to stop being a passenger and start sitting in the "driving" seat more.

Since then Hols has decided to become a total ginger bitch, we have had temper tantrums out on hacks, where we have spun, gone backwards, jumped up and down. She's setting her jaw to the point of it feeling like there is a lump of wood at the end of the reins. We did a ODE over the holidays and she spent the whole dressage test looking for her field mates, joggin when we should have been walking and generally being a cow (hence why she is now known as the ginger bitch). The showjumping and cross country consisted of trying to take off after each fence, and again setting her jaw on me.

Her back, teeth and tack have all been checked in the last couple of months so that has rules out those as being the reasoning behind it. She was in season but has now dropped off, so can only conclude that she doesnt like being "told" what to do.

I am going for another lesson on friday, and will tell Sarah all about the last few weeks and see what she has to say. I got off Holly tonight and walked her home because she wouldnt even slow down in walk but just wanted be a mare on a mission and get home as quick as possible.

Sorry rant over now, just felt the need to get it all off my chest and stop boring my hubby with the trials and tribulations of owning a ginger biage

Claire
Woodsmoke

Ah! I thought for a moment you'd met our HR rep'..........................
stir crazy

sorry to hear about madame. seasonal sounds like the most obvious but could be that she is just testing the boundaries. I don't remember how long you have had her, and also are you now introducing new stuff that you have not done. It is nice that you have a good understanding instructor and I am sure you will come through it.
good luck
ClaireK

I have had Holly for nearly 18 months and this has come about because i am obviously laying down rules that she doesnt want to "stick" to. We are doing nothing new, apart from the lesson, i have just put it down to the ginger in her. Roll on tomorrows lesson and Sarahs comments

Claire
lizzie44

What sort of bit do you use? Maybe swap for a change ie snaffle type to pelham or viceversa. Is she a lot fitter than last year? have you changed feeding routine or is she on hot spring grass? However I expect its hormones - they have a lot to answer for! Good luck with your lesson and let us know haw you got on. Love Lizzie
New Barns

B een there and done this one. always had geldings after the only  I had. Took at least six months for the 'hormones' to leave and she was 'skittish' and shied at the slightest thing!  Stick with it , it will eventualuy leave.
Seabird

A cherry roller or a magennis snaffle might deter her from taking hold of the bit.
Mares eh! who'd have 'em?
ClaireK

I ride her in a neue schule verbindend which she is normally very happy in, I have come to the conclusion its a ginger female thing. but am looking forwards to Sarahs comments tomorrow. Nothing else has changed really, all 3 are out at grass now but it is very restricted due to my fear of laminitis and she doesnt get anything that could give her any extra energy as she doesnt need it. Hey ho, tomorrows another day.

Claire
ClaireK

Has a cracking lesson yesterday. Sarahs advice was just to keep going as Holly is just objecting to no longer being in charge.  Will keep on going in the same way as i have been the last few weeks and hope she starts accepting it

Claire
dtalbot

Long time since I've been on a horse but can't think of many (well any!) mares I've ridden who responded well to been bossed around! The trick always seemed to be to trick them into thinking what you want them to do is what they want to do!
ClaireK

dtalbot wrote:
The trick always seemed to be to trick them into thinking what you want them to do is what they want to do!


This was definately what we did on friday. When she set off down the long side of the school in extended trot the instruction to "keep going and ride circles at the end. dont let her slow down and make the circle as small as you can safely. She wont fall over but she will back off and think "that wasnt quite what i wanted you to do to me". It will slow her down naturally and she will then think twice about doing it again" certainly gave her something to think about.  She worked really hard and i was really pleased with how she listened and reacted, saying that today she shot off round the field leaping and bucking when i tried to get near her to put a rug on, so it can only be the ginger in her.

Claire
dtalbot

ClaireK wrote:
dtalbot wrote:
The trick always seemed to be to trick them into thinking what you want them to do is what they want to do!


This was definately what we did on friday. When she set off down the long side of the school in extended trot the instruction to "keep going and ride circles at the end. dont let her slow down and make the circle as small as you can safely. She wont fall over but she will back off and think "that wasnt quite what i wanted you to do to me". It will slow her down naturally and she will then think twice about doing it again" certainly gave her something to think about.  She worked really hard and i was really pleased with how she listened and reacted, saying that today she shot off round the field leaping and bucking when i tried to get near her to put a rug on, so it can only be the ginger in her.

Claire



Yep thats the sort of trick I used, eventually it get so she thinks you are trying to help her do exactly what she wants (even if that just happens to be exactly the dressage test the show organisers have decided you should ride!)
New Barns

I'm another one who has only has one mare, never again, tempermental is not the right word!Whatever leg instructions were given 'backwards'  we would go, give me geldings any time, although we did 'inadvertently' buy a 'ringer'.
ClaireK

Holly is my first ever mare and i have always had geldings before as they are usually so even tempered. I would never normally have gone for a mare expecially a ginger one but something about her attracted me. Saying that i wont ever sell her or even let anyone else ride her. Shes mine for keeps so we will work through our difficulties and eventually it will all come together...i hope  

Claire
dtalbot

Stick at it! I always got on well with mares but there is far more of a mind game to play and bond of trust to build to get the best out of them than with a gelding! Can go horribly wrong at times (like when Flikka was so eager that we should win the jump off she decided we'd save a bit of time by not putting in the touchdown between the last two elements of the triple! Worst bit of it was I knew as we landed after the first element what she had in mind, knew it was going to end in a heap on the floor and didn't have time to do anything about it) but when it comes right its magic!
sapphire

Mares eh!!!!!    mainly had the little darlings, my oldie is 31 now & on the very rare occasion we go out, she will still tank off up a track & stubborn well, she does bunny hops if she doesnt want to do something. used to do a lot of shows & would more often & not get pulled in the 1st 2, but she would get bored in the lineup & start either tanking off or going up & jumping, well she could really cart me round a course    only took her hunting once    My other girl is 16 & is stubborn beyond belief, have had her since she was 12 months though - love/hate relationship there!

Spring grass, hormones, chestnut mare syndrome - good combination  !!!! But we love them  
ClaireK

Went out for a hack today and considering i havent ridden since monday due to the kids being grounded and in bed for 7 and hubby on nights she was lovely. Still having a bit of a discussion about things but no arguing and trying to get home as quick as possible. I thoroughly enjoyed my hack and the time spent with Holly, which is not always something i have done over the last couple or three weeks.

Claire
dtalbot

Good to hear it is going better, just wait till you ride that winning dressage test by telepathic control, well that is what it seems like when the magic clicks in.
ClaireK

I seemed to have turned a corner on sunday with Holly. I took her to a local unaffiliated dressage competition and she was very calm. Worked in well, listening to me, not concerned with the other horses in the warm up area, a real pleasure to ride.....that was until it was our turn to go into the dressage arena and she then spotted the flappy plastic over the veg in the next field. She grew 6 inches, ignored me and tried her level best to go through the test completely disregarding anything i asked of her. Transitions consisted of a hop, skip and a leap, canter was a case of canter, lean, drop behind the contact then shoot off in trot with her head in the air, before launching into canter again and the free walk just didn't happen.

Needless to say i was not a happy bunny and i think she knew it, but after the test was over i thought "bugger it" tomorrows another day and hopefully next time it wont be so windy

It's the first time i have ever had 2 3's in a dressage test! Even my daughters didnt say "well done mum that looked good" instead it was something along the lines of "she's still a ginger bitch then?"

I wasnt the only one having problems though, one poor souls horse was rearing and cavorting around like a lunatic and a friend who had entered a 4yr did a lovely test sods law.

Claire

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