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mogs

Gas V lecci

does anyone know which would be better for the environment?

i am talking about electric brooder lamps versus gas brooder lamps.
the gas ones are run on propane gas ( in bottles )
dtalbot

Well if you are on a green electricity tariff that wins hands down as the juice you buy has been generated from renewables.
Standard tariff leccy or gas both involve burning fossil fuel. If you are on a standard tariff then fossil fuel will have been burnt to generate the light, either directly in the gas lamp or at the power station (lets not get in to nuclear!) so there is a far bigger carbon footprint there and using the gas directly will probably have a slightly lower impact.
fish

green tarrif is a con! dont believe the hype! when fossil fuel generated went up in price due to the increase in fuel so did the green leccy well the price of wind didnt go up did it?
for a brooder whats wrong with hens?
debbie

We use a gas brooder for our piglets Mogs, not having any electricity, and it works very well. I have to say its expensive though - don't know i would fancy running it for the 5 or 6 weeks you need to for chicks. a 20kg ( I think thats the size) bottle last about a week of continuous use and costs us around 20. It is a big brooder though - enough for 200 chicks.

edited to say it was a 15kg bottle for that price.
dtalbot

fish wrote:
green tarrif is a con! dont believe the hype! when fossil fuel generated went up in price due to the increase in fuel so did the green leccy well the price of wind didnt go up did it?
for a brooder whats wrong with hens?

Trouble is leccy is priced as a single commodity regardless of the source so if the dominant raw material increases in price so does the whole commodity, Its a failure in market structure rather than a con, by using a green tariff you are paying for the amount of kW you use to be bought from a renewable source so making that energy supplier viable, somewhere on the grid there is your quantity of rewnewable energy, so that much less fossil fuel leccy even if there is know way of knowing where the amps powering your kettle actually come from!
mogs

debbie, thanks for that info....

luckily enough i manage to get the chicks off heat after about 2 weeks, they are feathered up at 7 days and can actually fly.....lol....but that would still work out quite a lot......i usually brood about 60 at a time, but i guess you can turn the gas brooder down.

does not make an awful lot of sense to be eco friendly if it is going to cost a lot of money to do it.

have to rethink the solar power......and weight the cost up against gas....then against lecci.
debbie

you can't turn the brooder down mogs - not the one I have anyway temp control if by raising and lowering the unit on its long chain. As I said, ideal for the pigs as we only use it for a week - around 4 days contants then 4 or 5 days night time only depending on how strong the piglets are and the weather.
mogs

aahh right debbie

i had this idea that you could regulate the heat from a gas brooder.....similar to an old fashioned gas fire.....

hhhmmmm, all that wasted heat.

oh well, looks like i said and i will have to rethink the solar power.....

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