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confused

Earning a shilling ?

i  just fell heir to 46 pallets !!! ah well thats me and my grandson busy for a few days , a lot of fire kindling wood for sale in  my neck of the woods .
My grandson came to see me a few month back , moaning that he cant get a job , has no money ,etc , i have sat him down and tried to explain that he is'nt the first nor will he be the last to be in the same boat , The sore part is showing him i used to make a few bob , but i think i might just be winning , he's now talking about wanting to go self employed , just doing odd jobs , Will he cut the mustard ? or wont he  ? one things for sure he will get nowhere sitting around like he has for the past 8 years .
Toddy

If he's been unemployed that long, then he's one of those folks who would get all the help they need to do a business plan, to set up a 'small business' and take in a small income while he works to get it off the ground….I think it's six months money or something like that…..not certain, but it must be worth finding out about.

He's certainly not going to get anything for doing nothing, but if he's taking on board what you've told him (and are teaching him) and gets off his backside and applies himself, then, the rest is up to him, and even if it doesn't work it'll still look better on his cv to a prospective employer.

Loads of woodburners bought recently; folks think it's easy to keep them fueled by free collection, then they discover that it becomes drudgery…..nice wee business there, especially if he develops from it and does stuff like hedge trimming, gets a chainsaw certificate and does some small tree work too…..and it's all fuel for his business. Small stuff can be charcoaled and there's another iron to his fire (no pun intended ) get a charcoal making course under his belt and offer native hardwoods charcoal too.

Best of luck with it.

Toddy
magnet

I made a fair bit money a few years back making bird boxes from pallet wood i took a stall at a local carboot sale and sold the lot.
Always better to be grafting than sitting about theres no milage in that. A lot of lads round here are on the scrap that a good little earner too. Good luck to him
rhino

I wouldn't bother with scrap too many folk doing it you need a big vehicle to make it pay it's down to £90 a ton now and you'll need a licence off the council.
Go to a pallet yard they have loads of waste, a mate of mine burns 10 tonnes a week and you can build stuff and make firewood to your hearts content.
https://www.pinterest.com/positiveandnice/pallet-reinvention/
rhino

I use big engineering pallets for cattle fencing

bodger

I get loads of pallets for firewood and building  stuff with from local factories. They are more than pleased to get rid of the non returnable ones. I hope the lad makes a go of things.
horace

Best of luck whatever he picks
rhino

Yes definitely good luck,  
darkbrowneggs

Sounds like you are setting him on the right road  
sod

As said all the best you are getting him on right path   Our son was like him after the place he worked sold out tried working for himself because I had but he just didn't have what it takes so his Mum found him a job   now he is going great.
Christine

Funny but it takes a lot to get some people going but once they get in the swing of work no problem.

And work isn't the easiest to come by nowadays. Not like us oldsters who grew up in the early 60s with jobs to go to for all those who wanted.
sod

Christine wrote:
Funny but it takes a lot to get some people going but once they get in the swing of work no problem.

And work isn't the easiest to come by nowadays. Not like us oldsters who grew up in the early 60s with jobs to go to for all those who wanted.


So true both things I remember in mid 60s changing jobs was so easy Funny how much happier are son became so after starting his new job and now has been able to finished his time and is a chainsaw/small motor/pump mechanic
confused

Yes he seems keen to make a go of it ,he wants his PaPa to handle the money side as he  feels that he may just  waste it , i've never been stuck to turn a penny as they say , so i hope that he keeps it up , i will keep you informed as to how we progress , and there was me thinking life would be easier when i retired !!
sod

confused wrote:
Yes he seems keen to make a go of it ,he wants his PaPa to handle the money side as he  feels that he may just  waste it , i've never been stuck to turn a penny as they say , so i hope that he keeps it up , i will keep you informed as to how we progress , and there was me thinking life would be easier when i retired !!


Great to hear and him seeing he needs help with his money too   you doing a great job there  
Christine

I'm just wondering about earning a shilling. Will it still be legal tender?
confused

Christine wrote:
I'm just wondering about earning a shilling. Will it still be legal tender?

   Now i'm worried , what do the boy scouts do now ?
  ? A JOB  ,  a poser ,
I know a lot of folk used to ask "how much are you'r penny chews ?"
sod

Long gone here  
confused

A wee update on my grandson,and his attempt to earn himself a  wage, he certainly seems keen enough , i have been working a few days alongside him trying to show him some good habits, on his say-so ,i have bought him a trailer , for my motor ! and yesterday he purchased a secondhand grass cutter, i was impressed by his thinking on the grass cutter ,he said "It's a honda engine and they must be good ,because people hardly ever sell them secondhand , they usually keep them untill they are rusted away, i have tried to tell him that sometimes you have to do someone a favour to get a foot in the door, and it seems to be sinking in , as a few weeks ago i suggested that he offered to pick horse poo from a local paddock in return for the bags of poo which he could sell to the allotment holders on my site  , not a lot of cash but still better than being idle , the owner of the stables was impressed with his efforts and has told him he can have the whole muck heap in the yard !! and has asked him to give her a price for painting the gutters on her loose boxs , small steps but steady ones, i hope it continues .
Toddy

Work for the pennies, and the pounds roll in.

Good on him

M
horace

Good luck to the lad
Rena

That's a wonderful update!!!
sod

good news
confused

i will try and keep you updated ,it might be interesting to see how he fairs over a period of time.
confused

Time for another wee update, I am delighted to say that the youngster has continued to work like a trojan, i said to him last week ,2 your allowed to take a day off" his reply was "I've already used my supply over the past umpteen years ,so lets just get on with it ," I felt so proud of him , lets hope it continues.
I hope this thread is'nt boring anyone ,but i have told him that i posted our story on here ,to which he replied "I better no let ye down then "
horace

You just carry on
Toddy

Sounds like the lad's got a decent head on his shoulders and not afraid of hard work.

"I've already used my supply over the past umpteen years ,so lets just get on with it "

"I better no let ye down then "

You don't live anywhwere near me do you ? I've a line of slabs needing trued up, and the elderly Uncle's needing work done on his paths and gutters too.

M
darkbrowneggs

I love this thread.  Well done you for helping him turn his life around
confused

Well I have'nt been on for a wee  while  been busy ,also had a wee spell in hospital but all on the mend now, on the up side my grandson is getting on with things and looks like he is enjoying the experience, he has been mega busy, and has picked up loads of grass cutting, and his add on to this is ,he mow offers the householders that he will put there rubbish bins out, wash them and put them back, as he say's "I might never be a millionare but at least I can sleep at night knowing that I have earned my corn for the day "
When he said that  I knew that he had turned a big corner in his life ,all we need now is a driving licence for him and he is set , he has been offered a job working with a builder, but he turned it down saying " I reckon I will be better working for myself at the moment ,as I know that I can make that shilling my Pa-Pa "
P.S.  When I was in hospital he sent a message to me saying "To busy to visit I know you will get better quicker in the knowledge that im working ,not swaning off to visit old men lying in their beds " I loved that .
sod

confused wrote:
Well I have'nt been on for a wee  while  been busy ,also had a wee spell in hospital but all on the mend now, on the up side my grandson is getting on with things and looks like he is enjoying the experience, he has been mega busy, and has picked up loads of grass cutting, and his add on to this is ,he mow offers the householders that he will put there rubbish bins out, wash them and put them back, as he say's "I might never be a millionare but at least I can sleep at night knowing that I have earned my corn for the day "
When he said that  I knew that he had turned a big corner in his life ,all we need now is a driving licence for him and he is set , he has been offered a job working with a builder, but he turned it down saying " I reckon I will be better working for myself at the moment ,as I know that I can make that shilling my Pa-Pa "


Sorry to hear you have been in hospital but glad to hear you on mend. Great news about you Grandson   he sounds very much on the right track good on you for your help to him.
confused

Well it's been nearly 6 month since we started this journey , all seems to be going well but the days are shorter now and the hours that can be worked are less, or so I thought !! but it would seem that my grandson has other ideas, his new train of thought is that he moves into my garage as a workshop, and gets busy making bird feeders,/ nest boxes/insect houses, etc for the xmas /spring, it might not make him his fortune but it might just keep the wolf from the door, my big problem is allowing myself to  let him go and be a "Big Boy" I still want to use the power saw /drill etc , just in case ? I still see him as the helpless lad who a few month ago couldn't use a hammer never mind an axe ! every time I see him chopping bags of firewood I hear myself saying " Watch what YOUR DOING with axe "  for any's sake he is 26 yr's old , a man , I really need to get a grip, it surprises me that he has never blown his top at me , the way I still watch over him like a mother hen,
I find it hard to believe that he has come so far in a short while, hopefully all will continue in the same manner for the foreseeable future, and I can take a back seat and just watch him get on with his life.
sod

What were you like at his age     Hard I know to let them go. It be diffent with ours as I taught them to use power tools,milk cows, drive anything and all things. Evil reason as then they could help me  

I'm sure he will be great and safe.
horace

It sounds like he is having a good time  maybe it,s time to give him some space
confused

Just a wee update,  like a couple of you said it was maybe time to give the "young yin" some space , so I did just that ,and the result ---- he's getting on just grand, although he always says "Mind we are still partners in the thinking department" .
I reckon if he can keep making a few bob in the winter he will be fine in the summer, and by the look of things he's doing fine , I love his willingness to give it a go ! a big change from the Laddie who thought that the world owed him a living for waking up in the morning.   A few weeks back I suggested that he tried to get a wee bit ground somewhere that he could use for a base , maybe cutting the fire wood ,somewhere with a bit shelter , he agreed and we went into a couple of farms that I knew the farmers , the result was that he has a bit of an old cow shed and the court that went with it , rented for £200 a year , as the farmer said it was sitting empty for nearly 15 year, so any money is better than none ,and he knows me so thinks its a good idea to have someone about the place , Sandy asked the farmer if he could repair the door on the shed in order to keep his bits and bobs safe, "carry on " was the reply , once he saw the job finished  he was impressed and has now asked my Grandson if he wanted to repair some potato box's for him ,Sandy asked me to take a look and see what I thought  !!! honestly there must be over 300 boxes in various states of repair , the outcome is that Sandy has the job of fixing them  up ,and he can take all the ones that are beyond repair and cut them for fire kindling , a superb result and something to do on these wet days ,
I really am so proud of him, the only downside is when he shook hands on the deal , he then said " Aye me and my Pa-Pa can do anything , "
kaz

I hope that he gave the farmer a rate per box for the job
magnet

confused wrote:
Just a wee update,  like a couple of you said it was maybe time to give the "young yin" some space , so I did just that ,and the result ---- he's getting on just grand, although he always says "Mind we are still partners in the thinking department" .
I reckon if he can keep making a few bob in the winter he will be fine in the summer, and by the look of things he's doing fine , I love his willingness to give it a go ! a big change from the Laddie who thought that the world owed him a living for waking up in the morning.   A few weeks back I suggested that he tried to get a wee bit ground somewhere that he could use for a base , maybe cutting the fire wood ,somewhere with a bit shelter , he agreed and we went into a couple of farms that I knew the farmers , the result was that he has a bit of an old cow shed and the court that went with it , rented for £200 a year , as the farmer said it was sitting empty for nearly 15 year, so any money is better than none ,and he knows me so thinks its a good idea to have someone about the place , Sandy asked the farmer if he could repair the door on the shed in order to keep his bits and bobs safe, "carry on " was the reply , once he saw the job finished  he was impressed and has now asked my Grandson if he wanted to repair some potato box's for him ,Sandy asked me to take a look and see what I thought  !!! honestly there must be over 300 boxes in various states of repair , the outcome is that Sandy has the job of fixing them  up ,and he can take all the ones that are beyond repair and cut them for fire kindling , a superb result and something to do on these wet days ,
I really am so proud of him, the only downside is when he shook hands on the deal , he then said " Aye me and my Pa-Pa can do anything , "


Thats a result Ian he'll go far that lad. He's fortunate to have a Grandad  like you. All the best to you both.
sod

Great to hear the update you are the kind of grandad I had and hope to be for our grandsons. You two are great together and he loves you thinks the world of you and you him.  
confused

I always have a wee chuckle to myself when we stop for a wee cuppa , when I feel its time to restart I always say "ah well no rest for the wicked lets make a start " the young pup re[lies with a comment like "Ah well you'll know right enough" or "Go on then your call "  a sure sign that he is gaining in confidence all the time
  Today we are of to cut up a big beech tree which fell victim to last weeks high winds , one of my fav jobs cutting up trees for firewood ,especially when I have some young muscle to do the carrying .
confused

I have been finding it hard to motivate myself these past few weeks ,with all these wet days , but then I think to myself how lucky we are that we can still get about , all be it that it's a lot slower than yesteryear  so yesterday I set about chopping some of potato box firewood for kindling, result =40 bags  ready to go at £2.50, Meanwhile my Grandson was away cleaning out a garage for a guy who had bought a lot of Beech logs from us a couple of weeks ago , Originally his plan had been to stack the logs outside , but this changed when he did his sums ,and saw that he was getting a good deal on the logs , so now the garage is being converted to a woodstore, Sandy has now taken on the job of making the garage into a woodstore /toolstore, I'm taking a back seat on this one letting the young yin   have his head and doing it his way .
It's now around 9 month since we started this wee project and I would love to take a lot less to do with the running of it , I think that my Grandson will be more than capable of earning a living on his own , we will sit down with a couple of Ciders and put a plan in place for the next move , I don't mind being around and helping him out when he needs it but I'm sure he will enjoy being his own man .
Christine

Maybe he just likes having company to work beside - it can get lonely just by yourself when you are a young un.
sod

Christine wrote:
Maybe he just likes having company to work beside - it can get lonely just by yourself when you are a young un.


Agree plus he just may like to have the 'OK" nod on his ideas from the person he loves/respects the most. Just hope I can have the same with my grandsons. you sound just like my Grandfather, wonderful
confused

I wont walk away from him or no be there for him , I just reckon that come the summer time if it ever arrives in these parts, I would like to give him more space , and maybe spend more time at my allotments , and try and get my younger grandson into some country pursuits , but im sure we will still be chewing the fat most days , and I sit around doing nothing , never have quite mastered that art !
confused

A quick update , the young yin came round yesterday , looking for a solution to a wee problem with his beloved grass cutter , it was quite an easy fix really but I suggested that maybe a new mower was required and keep the old one just for a backup , the cheeky young pup said " Aye just like you still in the shed just in case ! ",  I really loved the comment .          
He then proceeded to tell me had just been and got a contract to cut the grass at a retirement home every  week during the season  , good for him he has made me so proud in the last 12 month .
 I know this thread is a bit like blowing my own trumpet always going on about "wonder boy " but I just wish that some other youngster could read this and be inspired to do something similar, because believe me he was heading down the rocky road to ruin ,lying in bed until all hours and then running around with the wrong crowd , but a bit hard work and feeling tired at night plus having a few bob in his pocket have given this lad a new purpose in life .
horace

Good luck to the lad and long may it continue
Toddy

I think Grannies and Grandpas are a much under rated resource.
Humanity survives long past breeding years because of the value of their experience to younger generations.
I think you've done a great job with your Grandson, confused and good on the lad too, getting off his toosh and getting a life that's earning him both a living and a lot of self confidence.

M
confused

Just thought i would update the story , my grandson is still doing away seems to have regular few earners which give him a basic amount each month , but still leave him free to take on extras ,  we had a long chat about how things are going in general for him ,and i have to agree it is hard for him to decide whether to take more regular steady jobs or continue as he is , i think like me he is really enjoying , seeing the opportunity to make a shilling ,and going for it ,i have tried to explain that as long he has enough regular work to keep the wolfs from the door , he can continue to find bits and bobs to put the cream in the sponge ,   As he said "Papa i'm certainly in a better place now than i was 15/16 month ago "  "Thanks"  Now i'm not in the least embarased to say that brought a wee lump to my throat  .
Well done young yin .
kaz

Thanks for the update - it sounds as though he is doing really well.
Are you still as active with him or have you been able to step back a bit?
sod

Thanks for the update and great to hear he is still going strong,so many can't keep going that long, you have every reason to be proud of you both
confused

A wee update , my Grandson has now been self employed for around 18 month , i wondered at the start if would stick it ? but he has made me proud , he has had the chance of a couple of jobs on the strength of his work , but has turned them down in order to be his own boss , i still go round a couple of times a week and play away , i cut some kindling for him , make some bird tables , nest boxs , wooden planters , just what ever he has an order for , he has bought himself a nice transit van, complete with a tow bar so he can borrow MY TRAILER , ! changed days from when i was giving him a few ££'s to help him survive , now he gives me a few !! , i still look after his accounts for him , his choice he says " Aye papa your the money man , your so tight i wont get the chance to waste it ! "   so proud of what he has turned himself into , long may it continue .
Dave C

Good for him  

I love hearing stories of youngsters making a go of it  
So many are happy to sit on there fat arses.

Best of luck to him.
sod

Agree with Dave it makes one feel right good to hear about a young one doing so well.
12Bore

Excellent news, good on you both  
confused

OK, it's two years since my Grandson started this journey , and i am delighted to say that he is still working as hard as ever , so far he has been in a position where he almost has more work than he cope with and has relied on a fair bit of help from me ,to be fair he has always insisted that i get paid , but times move on , we had a long chat a couple of months ago and i said i thought it was time for me to take a real back seat , Sandy was'nt so sure but eventually he came round to my way of thinking , he asked me to help him get a someone who could help him ,i knew a young lad who was looking for work and he has been working with Sandy now for nearly 2 month , things look good , both young and eager to improve the situation they were in ,  so for now i'm a retired man , i was delighted to be in a position where i could give him a few ££'s towards his new equipment, i was even more pleased when he looked at me and said "Pa-pa i knew you would never spend that money that you said were your wages , "  i was proud to see him really make a go of it , i have said that i will be around if he wants to talk , which he replied " make it a day with a Y in it then" ,  Good luck son you will be fine i can tell.
Dave C

That's really good news      
horace

Excellent  news i hope he keeps up the good work  
sod

Great to hear must be a great for you to see him doing so well. We know that feeling  

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