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gorlan

dog fighting

i,ll have to be circumspect in what i say here,it is a belief that a local man (caernarfon area) is asking to take in stray dogs and cats,this is rumoured to be for dog fighting/baiting,please be careful who you let take animals,not sure i,m in the right section?
barraboy

heard lots of stuff on FB about various individuals countrywide doing this, seems to be rife [along with dog theft] at the moment
sod

I think any place is good for putting such a warning myself thanks
Seabird

Thanks Gorlan. I've heard similar things on the grapevine.

PS I'll see if I can get a warning on the Caernarfon Freecycle
webley

I know a few traveling folk and have asked them about all this dog theft fighting rumours and they say its not true. It's more than likely related to intensive puppy farms.
Why would an individual with a fighting dog want say a Labrador for training. It's hardly going to put up much of a fight especially against a pit bull.
Then when it comes to the real thing the dog will be in for a shock when its opponent fights back with equal ferocity. It's not the way it works.
confused

webley wrote:
I know a few traveling folk and have asked them about all this dog theft fighting rumours and they say its not true. It's more than likely related to intensive puppy farms.
Why would an individual with a fighting dog want say a Labrador for training. It's hardly going to put up much of a fight especially against a pit bull.
Then when it comes to the real thing the dog will be in for a shock when its opponent fights back with equal ferocity. It's not the way it works.


WOA! You are way of the mark , let me assure you that is not how it works , these low life , pit there dogs against easy targets in training ,in order to give the dog an easy "kill" believe me they are not interested in a "square go "  "matched" fight , it is all about giving the dog easy targets ,
These people are the lowest of the low, they are not going to risk the money making machine against a similar type dog when there is no prize for winning , believe me , i have met some of these people --scum each and every one of them ,

PLEASE BEWARE IF THIS IN YOUR AREA .
bodger

Here ! Here ! I absolutely agree.
webley

Well I think agree to disagree then.
bodger

You think that people who fight dogs aren't scum?
webley

bodger wrote:
You think that people who fight dogs aren't scum?


Scum of the earth fella! But I didn't join here for an argument if I want an argument I just buy another gun, gets me an argument with the wife almost immediately.
bodger

eh?
Normesby

I aint agreeing or disagreeing or agreeing with anyone but must add I am a very sceptical thinking person. It makes me wonder how the organisations can find numerous clips of dog fights between two bull type terriers yet they can never show any clips of this baiting they talk of ? Now if someone were trying to convince me of something so heinous they would be far more successful in gaining my support and belief if they could actually prove what they were saying. Note I am talking only of dog fighting and not the dog v badger stuff as I have seen these clips via the media and so I do believe this happens.

Please forgive my curiosity Confused but in what capacity have you met these 'low lifes' ?
conundrum

Well I truly hope that those of you who do not believe that dogs are used as bait, never actually see the end result. I have seen first hand, the bleeding, half dead (often actually dead) dogs that have been used to "train" fighting dogs. I have held them as they died, I have taken them to vets to be hopefully put back together.  These dogs were often someones beloved pet, sleeping on the bed, spoken to softly and with love, ripped from that world, to have their mouths and legs taped, and the pit fighters sicced onto them. These disgusting morons do not want their "prize" dogs hurt before they get in the pit. Some were strays, some found in the internet advertised as free to a good home.
Pit bulls them selves actually have to be trained and made to fight, once known as the nanny dog of the US, they are the most loyal dog in the world, and they will fight for their owners, because that makes these abominations of human beings happy with the dogs. Just because you do not see something happening, or do not want to believe it, does not make it not happen.
bodger

Normesby

Well if thats the case Conundrum I feel very sorry for the poor animals in such circumstances and the people who have to deal with them after such events...............
lilwitedogs

conundrum wrote:
Well I truly hope that those of you who do not believe that dogs are used as bait, never actually see the end result. I have seen first hand, the bleeding, half dead (often actually dead) dogs that have been used to "train" fighting dogs. I have held them as they died, I have taken them to vets to be hopefully put back together.  These dogs were often someones beloved pet, sleeping on the bed, spoken to softly and with love, ripped from that world, to have their mouths and legs taped, and the pit fighters sicced onto them. These disgusting morons do not want their "prize" dogs hurt before they get in the pit. Some were strays, some found in the internet advertised as free to a good home.
Pit bulls them selves actually have to be trained and made to fight, once known as the nanny dog of the US, they are the most loyal dog in the world, and they will fight for their owners, because that makes these abominations of human beings happy with the dogs. Just because you do not see something happening, or do not want to believe it, does not make it not happen.


Thank you!
webley

I did not say that some dogs where used as bait. It's a disgusting activity that I myself can think of many ways to deal with those involved and make them sorry for even being born.

I said in my conversations with travelling folk that some dog thefts in areas can be put down to puppy farms. There is a conciderable amount of money involved in this also odious activity.
Seabird

It's not just dogs. In the Caernarfon area there are gangs of youths who throw cats to packs of terriers. One of my friends had the unenviable task of telling an owner that a member of the public had seen just that happen to her missing pet.
   
If the b******s are caught they get a pat on the head an community service!!!    
sod

There was a dog fighting ring we heard of that was found a while back. Names supressed etc. but small town so before they got to court 4 of them had accidents which they wouldn't tell how it happened and all ended up guests of H.M. prison  
12Bore

sod wrote:
There was a dog fighting ring we heard of that was found a while back. Names supressed etc. but small town so before they got to court 4 of them had accidents which they wouldn't tell how it happened and all ended up guests of H.M. prison  

Good.
barraboy

i dont doubt that dogs are taken for both, puppy farms and fighting...i could spiral off into a rant but i'll spare you, as i feel all of us here are on the same page

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