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bodger

Cushings

Our dear old Border Terrier has started to suffer with what would apear to be Cushings disease. She's hale and hearty in herself but she has started to drink  a lot of water, can't make it through the night without a wee, has put weight on and does a bit of panting from time to time.
Karens taking her to the vets this evening and we're hoping that the condition will be controllable with tablets.
The old girl is a real character and although she is twelve years old, she's still very active. She has a great quality of life and quite naturally, we'd like to keep her around for as long as possible. Has anyone else come across this problem in their dogs and if so, what tends to be the prognosis?

Without Maggie, who would there be to do the moderating on here?




Scottie

When my last dog was like that he was diagnosed with diabetis, injected him every day for a year but had to have him put down in the end  
sod

Glad to see you got the table colour to suit her, she is so beautiful looking   love her
bodger

She's definately been a one off.









Lorrainelovesplants

Our big old fat retreiver is nearly at the end of it.
He weighs 43kg and will sleep all day and all night.  He snores constantly - even when he is awake.
The furthest he will go for a walk now is about 200yds.  
Life appears to be getting too much for him.  He's over 10 now, but we think may not last till Christmas.
bodger

Thankfully, Maggie is till fighting fit in herself, its just that the symptoms are a bit of a nuisance and the bill, is obviously going to be a frightener.

In the last week, she's had a urine test which was clear and I took her in for a basic blood test yesterday, which also showed nothing untoward.
This morning, I took her for a test for Cushings and she'll be there until the afternoon. As she went into the surgery she did a little piddle and that I said to them, is the problem.  Apparently, they're going to give her a jab of steroids and then monitor how the body responds to it. Fingers crossed for the lady that after the treatment she'll be able to keep her legs crossed a little longer.
sod

All the best thinking of you all

Lorraine we feel for you too hard times bet youve had lot of good time though and he is getting thw best care there is now I bet
chicken feed

fingers crossed for good news
12Bore

Fingers crossed.
bodger

We wont get the results until the beginning of next week.  
Lorrainelovesplants

maybe I should get tested....

Im at that stage that I sometimes am very close to 'having a piddle' and not making it!  Ah, the joys of middle age.
sapphire

Lorrainelovesplants wrote:
maybe I should get tested....

Im at that stage that I sometimes am very close to 'having a piddle' and not making it!  Ah, the joys of middle age.



think theres a few of us      
Juli

sapphire wrote:
Lorrainelovesplants wrote:
maybe I should get tested....

Im at that stage that I sometimes am very close to 'having a piddle' and not making it!  Ah, the joys of middle age.



think theres a few of us      


That's when you need to call for the Tena Lady...
Lorrainelovesplants

joking aside...
I did consider this...

I think I will go to the docs with it...
there are two things - stress incontinence and urge incontinence.  The first is when you pee when you sneeze or cough, the 2nd that you 'feel' you need to go NOW .......a lot (I think I have both)

Ive cut right back on coffee and drink redbush tea (less caffeine), but still have 'symptoms'.

The kids think its hilarious when mum suddenly 'freezes' in the kitchen because if she moves she might have an incident.
bodger

Eight pints of beer a night has a similar effect.
bodger

A bit of a mystery. I've just phoned the vets and the blood test that Maggie had at the end of last week has come back negative for Cushings.

That means that she's had a urine test and two different blood tests that have shown nothing untoward. In the meantime, we still have a dog thats drinking and piddling like Old Faithful I'm having to get up a couple of times a night to let her out for a Jimmy riddle and I'm also having to top her water up too.
We can't put her out in the kennel with the other dogs because she's always been a house dog and she howls the house down at night. I'm absolutely bushed and could sleep on a clothes line. Unlike me, she's absolutely fine and other than having this particular problem, you wouldn't think that there was anything wrong with her. I don't know where to go from here, we were convinced that it was Cushings and that she just needed some medication.
Scottie

Have you had her checked for diabetis?
Juli

Did the vet get a full thyroid panel done?

I know what you mean about having to get up in the night, as a side effect of Pereg's medication means that she can't go too long without a pee and she usually gets me up a couple of times every night.

At my age [and according to my mirror] I really do need my beauty sleep, so I'm half zonked most of the time.
sapphire

My 1st thought is the same as Scotties, diabetes?

This can also be a 'side effect' of Cushings Syndrome (which is slightly different to Cushings disease) .
lilwitedogs

My Bentley had those symptoms, and his problem was with his liver.  He was not making urea so his urine was very dilute.  Water was going in and coming out at a high rate.

Did they run a blood chemistry on her to check for liver enzymes?  Is her urine concentrated?
bodger

The first blood test and the urine came back as normal and the second blood test was specifically for the cushings.
Her piddle is the very opposite to concentrated, it is almost like water. If anything, her appetite has increased. She as happy as Larry and certainly hasn't lost any condition.
debbie

cushings in horses is to do with liver I think.  diabetes springs to mind to me too because of the drinking thing.  Sure the vet will do more tests for you though Bodger to clear things up.  My uncle has an old border collie that has become slightly urine incontenant and she has drugs to stop that so I am sure your vet will get to the bottom of the problem - in the mean time, a dog flap?  not easy for a great dane but must be do-able for border??
lilwitedogs

We did a Cushings test on Bentley.  That was negative.  It was the blood chemistry panel that showed his liver enzymes were elevated.
freckle

The usual procedure (after a full examination) would be taking a full blood profile-this would give evidence of elevated glucose (diabetes), elevated kidney parameters in the event of renal failure, elevated liver parameters indicating a possible hepatic failure (by failure we are talking chronic here-not acute!). However liver enzymes could also in the event of Cushings Disease. To test specifically for Cushings a two stage test is required to assess the level of cortisone in the blood in relation to what is done in the test (2 different types of test aailable hence sounding a bit vague here!) so the dog should be in the surgery for some hours.

Is she neutered Bodge?
kaz

Freckle - she has had the urine test, the full blood workout and the specific Cushings test (waiting for the bill now ) and nothing speciific shows on any of the tests.
She is not neutered and has had one litter of pups. She is not showing any of the signs of uterine infection and is still as lively and entertaining as ever
freckle

Other thing on the top of the differentials list is a grumbling pyometra. It quite often doesn't show any more signs than PU/PD-you may also have a rasied white blood cell count but sometimes not even that. Only definitive way to be sure would be to have the uterus whipped out-although you might be able to see signs on an ultrasound if there is enough fluid in the uterus.
kaz

Thanks for the info
freckle

When was her last season-whereabouts in her cycle is she?

Diabetes insipidous in few of the dilute urine......
kaz

She's nearly 13 and we haven't noticed any recent seasons.
freckle

That is unusual-although seasons might be more variable she shouldn't stop altogether.

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