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bodger

A bad month or two with the pigs.

I've had a bad two months with the pigs, I've lost half a dozen pigs from three different batches from a mystery illness or illnesses. None of them have really presented with the same symptoms and its been a bit of a mystery as to what's been seeing them off.
I've jabbed them up with various drugs and touch wood, they've all been in the peak of health for the last two weeks.
Needless to say, I've been quite down heartened about the whole thing but for the last two weeks all the pigs have been in peak health again. At one stage  I was ready to get rid of the lot. I'm very conscientious when it comes to looking after and caring for my pigs and its been a real kick in the teeth.

Pig prices are rock bottom at the moment thanks in the main to Mr Putin and Russia but as the saying goes 'When the going gets tough, the tough get going' and yesterday I bought this bit of kit from someone whose seen the writing on the wall and come out of pig keeping completely. Hopefully, it wont be a case of me ' throwing good money after bad.














confused

Yip, it can get to you at times , only last week I was talking to I guy I know and he was telling me that he has just given up pigs , as he kept his outdoors and this wet weather was the final straw , he was telling me some horrid storys about the way pig keeping has down in the last couple of years ,  but I reckon that often in this type of case if you can tough it out ,there is a profit around the corner , when the tide turns , as it always ends up doing ,   All the best
horace

I think this rough weather we have been having would put a downer on all livestock
HonkHonk

Nice sized ark there Bodger, sorry to hear of your troubles, hopefully the market will pick up again soon, what has Putin done now to affect the UK pork industry?
sod

Understand just what you mean I get same way about having cattle they just eat and eat, winter feed hay summer (NOW) dried out so will feed out hay    -$$$$$ so are cutting right back and just have house cow to share milk and 6-7 cows and bull. Sell all calves each year.Slight less money lot less stress, easier life    
julieshrops

That's horrible for you.   As you know our ground is very wet at the best of times so you can imagine how horrendous it is at the moment.  We are so glad that our pigs are now housed on a concrete pad for the winter - they are still using their arks but no mud to cause problems - to them or us.
bodger

Putin has stopped pig imports, so the meat that usually goes to them is being dumped at low prices on the UK by European producers.

Julie, slowly but surely I'm moving towards being able to house my pigs indoors on concrete during our wet winters. Our land drains well but this winter has seen it turn into a quagmire. It makes life so much easier for both myself and the pigs, to have as many of them indoors as possible. I've got fresh paddocks ready for them to go into but I'm not put them into them until spring has well and truly sprung.
When the land dries out I intend getting someone in to plough and I'm hoping to get turnips, mangol wurzels and possibly potatoes planted.
Border

Its not only the UK that is being hit by Putin's import ban on pork, Denmark's pig producers have been hit very hard and are going broke at about one a week. I personally know 5 large pig producers locally, that have turned the key, or the banks have done it for them.

At the moment 4-5 Danish farmers a week are going broke, as the banks will not loan them more money, and that is not good for any industry.

Putin has a lot to answer for, not only on the pig/pork front.
HonkHonk

Oh I see, that is not good, hopefully he may lift this ban sometime soon.
bodger

Its the governments Laissez-faire approach to the economy that needs to be changed.
Border

HonkHonk wrote:
Oh I see, that is not good, hopefully he may lift this ban sometime soon.


I doubt it mate, as Europe doesn't really want to play ball with him, in the mean time the farmers suffer.

As for governments Laissez-faire approach, all this pussy footing and PC bullsh#t approach is serving to the good of no one.
hughesy

The mainstream mass production pig industry is being hit hard by the Russian import ban and the consequent European pork mountain. I don't think it affects the small producer in the same way though because after all we are in control of what we produce and what we charge for it. My customers don't compare what I sell to what they could buy in asda thankfully.
I've spoken to three small pig keepers only this week that are giving up. My view is that if you look after your regular customers they'll keep coming to you and if you can keep plodding on through the hard times better things are around the corner.
bodger

Not that I'm in the market for any more pigs but now would be the time to be purchasing breeding stock. There'll be some very good animals being sent in to have their heads off.
chicken feed

bodger wrote:
Not that I'm in the market for any more pigs but now would be the time to be purchasing breeding stock. There'll be some very good animals being sent in to have their heads off.



We have nothing to sell atm but had I if someone wanted breeding stock they would pay breeding prices rather send them for slaughter than have someone get them for nothing . and I know I am not alone on that one !!.
hughesy

I don't sell weaners or breeding stock simply because I can't see any profit in it. Even very well known breeders with good reputations are selling stock for what seem to me to be low prices. Trade is slow on the pork front but it's January, the weather's awful and the economy in general is in the gutter. Spring will see an upturn as it usually does but I think better times are a long way off for the big boys in the pork game.

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