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Seabird



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: So how many bins....  Reply with quote

do you have to put out each week?

It's reported that the folk of Newcastle under Lyme are complaining about having to sort their rubbish and recycling into 9 bins.

My response is 'what's the problem?'

OK, separate bins take up space, but I squash everything I can, put all the recycling into one bin, then sort it into separate containers the night before 'bin day'.

We only have 3 bins -
one for unrecyclable stuff (fortnightly)
one for garden and all food waste (fortnightly)
one for mixed bottles, plastics, paper, cardboard, tins and batteries. Collected weekly

I certainly wouldn't complain if I had to sort this further if it saved it going to landfill or kept the council tax down. After all, a kerbside delivery is far easier than taking it to the recycling centre.

Do you agree that these people are unreasonable whingers or do you think they have a fair point?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its hard to say.

For us it was easy to use the system you have, yet for our daughter in a very small terrace with no front or back garden it was a nightmare. The kitchen was just big enough for one person to stand & cook in so any rubbish had to be kept in the only other down stairs room the living room.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish we had more.
We could happily fill more than one green wheelie bin with garden stuff.
We get one small green box for bottles and stuff - not saying how quickly that fills up ;)
A small blue plastic bag for paper
A small clear plastic bag for plastics.
Why plastic bags???
We recycle a lot onsite but there's still stuff we would like to put in bins.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every house in Norwich has 3 wheelie-bins; One  for general house hold rubbish, one for cans & cardboard, and one for green garden waste.
Then a 30 litre plastic box with lid for glass, then a 25 litre box for food waste which is supplimented with a 7 litre "in side" food waste box.

Although the "outside" food boxes have a lid, it is not vermin proof and can be opened by; Cats. dogs, Crows, and Foxes, etc ....... who then spread it all about for the Rats.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see your point about space Justme, but wouldn't the rubbish  take up space whether it's sorted for recycling or not.  

I have to admit that since I've had to sort the stuff I wash and squash as much as I can - it's a great stress reliever jumping on plastic bottles, and you can fit 6 large milk containers into a cat food carton if you really try!!

What if we adopted the European system where household waste is not collected from each residence, but large bins are left on each street corner for people to fill with rubbish and recycling. That would mean dropping your rubbish off every day - surely it's better to sort into 9 bins once a week. Actually - the report wasn't entirely accurate as some are bags, not bins, so not needing so much space.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One grey wheelie bin for household rubbish, two green garden waste wheelie bins (why 2? - dunno, they were here when we came) Green box for cans bottles and paper, green bag for plastics, green bag for cardboard.

Grey bin, green box and green bags collected one friday

Green garden bins collected next friday.

Even though the houshold stuff only goes once a fortnight it's never more than half full, be less than that once I get a compost bin sorted.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have 1 black wheelie for household rubbish - collected every 2 weeks

Bag for plastic bottles - collected every 2 weeks

green bags for garden waste - collected every 2 weeks

2 boxes for cardboard, paper, glass, tins (they sort it out at the roadside) - collected every week
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seabird wrote:
I can see your point about space Justme, but wouldn't the rubbish  take up space whether it's sorted for recycling or not.  



Not for a low volume user. 9 bins take up 9 bins space even when each only has one item in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out in the sticks of Norfolk we have 2 bins emptied alternate weeks. One is for recyclables (but not glass or yogourt pots!) and the other for general household rubbish. I always fill the recycling one brim full but hardly ever even half fill the rubbish one. A couple of weeks ago i had a shed turf out and put a bag of old cushions out that wouldnt fit in the bin - i got a very snotty note left about them not taking anything not in the bin. Bdooly cheek!! My neighbours bin is always overflowing and has "satellite" black bags and they dont get snotty letters. Love Lizzie
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the scandinavian method has merit and should be at least trialed if not implemented here.

You return your recyclables to the Supermarket, weigh them in, and are issued with a credit not which is redeemable at the till ...... it has worked exceptional well in; Norway, Sweden and Finland for over 20 years
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 recycling box put out weekly- No rules about seperation, just co-mingled.
Compost just about everything that we can. I live in the sticks so make a run to the town  dump every month with about 2 bins worth then fill my vehicle with any waste wood I can lay my hands on and use it in the woodstove. Usually there are loads of untreated 2X4 off cuts from builders being dumped already bagged!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth wrote:
Surely the scandinavian method has merit and should be at least trialed if not implemented here.

You return your recyclables to the Supermarket, weigh them in, and are issued with a credit not which is redeemable at the till ...... it has worked exceptional well in; Norway, Sweden and Finland for over 20 years


Glad you left one Scandinavian country out Gareth.    

In Denmark we have a different method, you pay a deposit on most plastic pop bottles, wine bottles and all beer and pop cans. Everything else you buy from a supermarket is unreturnable, so it's your problem.

There are five county councils(CC) in the whole of Denmark, that now pilot a system, where by each house has one wheelie bin you can decide what size you need, they are emptied every 14 days, the contents is wieghed. the frist five kilo are free, the rest is charged a rate of 58 pence per kilo.

So if you have a young family with two children under five still using pampers and each child fills four pampers a day, your bin gets to be rather weighy and expensive.

Most people the live in these pilot CC are very much against weighing of their rubbish. This in turn has put 200l drums in big demand as most people that live outside the towns now burn their rubbish off in these drums, instead of paying for it.

The litter bins placed in lay-bys are now full and over flowing with rubbish as people are using these instead of putting their rubbish in their own bin.

The countyside is now seeing more and more "fly tipping" as people will not pay for their rubbish, and they know at some point the CC will send someone out to clear the mess up, in the mean time the foxes crows and what ever else has ripped the plastic bags open and the rubbish is blown about.

It has also been reported that people, living in high tower blocks are filling each other bins, so some little old lady is having 100 kilo+ rubbish every 14 days, which is alittle unfair.

We have council run recycle places, for garden rubbish and electrical goods, and anything else you don't want to put in your wheelie bin, but that means you have to take it to the recycle place.

In the area where I live the Danish boy scouts and girl guides with the help of one of the local farmers and his tractor come and collect any bottles, paper, cardboard and flyers once a month, this is then sold, which in turn helps fund their outings and trips.

The wieghing of rubbish is not working, and the sooner the CC drops it the better, as most people mean they pay for their rubbish to be collected though their rates. It's just another "green" tax, which the Danish goverenment are rather fond off.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have one ordinary household/landfill bin - collected once a week (but we only fill less than 1/3 of a black sack so far as we're concerned it could be stretched to every two weeks.

Red top recycling for paper, card, glass, plastic, tins - this gets collected every other week.

There are other sorts of recycling, ie, garden waste (we don't use this as most of it goes onto the garden compost heap - if it won't go on that, we take it to the council recycling point ourself).  There's also food waste but, TBH, we don't waste much (if anything) - anything cooked and edible goes to the dog, raw and inedible goes on the compost heap.  Once in a blue moon there's a chicken carcass which has been well and truly stripped of anything that's worth having so that goes into the landfill waste.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I lived on my own and had the flat, it was in a block of 9, 3 flats on each floor, and we had a fortnightly general rubbish collection on every second Wdenesday. Each flat had a wheelie bin, but between all of us we barely filled on wheelie bin over 2/3-3/4 full ....... ....... until we got a new couple move in over the hall from me. ........................ then every week all 9 wheelie bins were filled and often before midday on the Saturday after Wednesday collection.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth wrote:
. . . . then every week all 9 wheelie bins were filled and often before midday on the Saturday after Wednesday collection.


I see how many black sacks our neighbours across the road put out each week - averages anywhere between 7 and 9.  Daren't go over and nose in their recycling bin when it's put out.  Suffice it to say - there's a lot of food scraps in the black sacks - evidence is there for all to see when the foxes/cats have had it out overnight  


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