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bodger



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:05 am    Post subject: Self Suffiency?  Reply with quote

Well the country voted to leave the EU and now  it appears that we're going to reap the rewards.
With the pound plummeting in value and our international credit rating reduced to zero over night, it means the end of cheap food for the masses. Everything that we import is going to be far more expensive than before the vote, so I think it's definitely going to be a very good time to go and shake the dust off your old self sufficiency books, scrape the rust off your spades and get digging and growing your own stuff. Dig for Victory!
And there's never been a better time to get your name down for an allotment. I fear that only the hunter gatherers amongst us are going to survive the upheaval.
I'm predicting food riots in the streets when the masses realise that the price of a Big Mac with double fries has had to go up and that there aren't any Eastern Europeans working for peanuts to serve them.
Armageddon is well and truly on it's ways.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm incredibly glad that our nearest city, Glasgow, has a large Asian-Scottish population. They'll keep variety available
That said, one urban community garden I know has an Indian couple growing their own veggies and herbs too !

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we will really know what the future holds until the dust settles a bit - i have a horrible feeling that the powers that be in europe will make us suffer financially and make things as difficult as they can for us as they will want to put other countries doing the same thing as the UK.  I am just very grateful that we are as self sufficient as we are including energy wise as, as you say John, prices are likely to go through the roof - Look at EDF for a start - one of our largest energy suppliers and a french company - the UK already pays 3 times the amount for its energy from that company than the French do so imagine what is going to happen when we do exit the eu.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we will really know what the future holds until the dust settles a bit - i have a horrible feeling that the powers that be in europe will make us suffer financially and make things as difficult as they can for us as they will want to put other countries doing the same thing as the UK.  I am just very grateful that we are as self sufficient as we are including energy wise as, as you say John, prices are likely to go through the roof - Look at EDF for a start - one of our largest energy suppliers and a french company - the UK already pays 3 times the amount for its energy from that company than the French do so imagine what is going to happen when we do exit the eu.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that it's of any real importance in the great scheme of things but I've suggested to Karen that she goes and gets a load of wine from the supermarkets. It's very competitively priced at the moment but future imports will be paid for with a pound that's worth a fraction of what it was yesterday.
Prices are going to go up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have frirnds buying pounds as they are coming to the UK later this year. We would too but have no NZ$ to buy them with
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them to hang on. The pundits reckon that the pound is likely to go down a bit more yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So buy British

Seriously, British booze comes in many varieties, is a thousand times better than it was even twenty years ago, so why not ?

Energy ? load of mince chattered about that elsewhere. Threaten to privatise it again and watch the big foreign companies off load the shares back to the UK.
Scotland is already producing a huge amount of it's energy from renewables,  it's just time England caught up, beside the improvements in the technology is another huge gain. We have an enormous coastline, the tide comes in and out as regular as clockwork, maybe time to invest more in marine energy harvesting ?

I know I'm a perpetual optimist really

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optimism is what is required.Iit was like a breath of fresh air to listen to the optimism of Digby Jones on the tv this morning . What a contrast to the doom merchants that hog the airwaves which if they are allowed to continue will be the cause of the recession they prophesise. Optimism rules . I was aghast at Kevin Mcquire  crowing about the political class as if they have a right to rule when they are completely out of touch with the people.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toddy wrote:
So buy British

Seriously, British booze comes in many varieties, is a thousand times better than it was even twenty years ago, so why not ?

Energy ? load of mince chattered about that elsewhere. Threaten to privatise it again and watch the big foreign companies off load the shares back to the UK.
Scotland is already producing a huge amount of it's energy from renewables,  it's just time England caught up, beside the improvements in the technology is another huge gain. We have an enormous coastline, the tide comes in and out as regular as clockwork, maybe time to invest more in marine energy harvesting ?

I know I'm a perpetual optimist really

M


Those of us who are of a certain age will remember the 'Buy British' campaign in the 60,s  or 70,s but the massive difference between then and now, is that then we had comprehensive manufacturing base. We haven't now, because we've virtually lost the lot.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's really surprising just how much stuff that Britain produces, and exports. The figures are absolutely enormous.

Much of the farming (set asides ??!!) and the like were simply because of tariffs from the EU on quotas and the like.

Buy British, besides, it tastes better, and it's more seasonal, and that's better for us all round. Variety is the spice of life. Look forward to Summer fruits, in Summer again.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't forget a low pound is great for your tourism industry and exporters .
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can have as many pairs of shoes as I can afford as mine are British made anyway (but only any good if you have wide square feet .   )

There's enough seeds in stock for next year for the allotment and the greenhouse is fully functional.

Clothes will be the headache as I'm not at the "sod the cost, buy it" end of the market. Socks are reasonably easy mind.

Furniture? Good question but as nothing is likely to be needed in the near future ....

It should be fun (!?!) seeing if we can buy British.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every one of the socks in my draw have been hand made by my beloved and I'm yet to wear a pair out. Thankfully she hasn't as yet made a contribution to my underpants draw.
By all accounts, those had stitched Arran gussets can be a tad itchy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bodger wrote:
Every one of the socks in my draw have been hand made by my beloved and I'm yet to wear a pair out. Thankfully she hasn't as yet made a contribution to my underpants draw.
By all accounts, those had stitched Arran gussets can be a tad itchy.
 


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