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Lloyd



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Paper log makers  Reply with quote

We have an unlimited supply of newspapers, so would like to make them into logs for the fire. Has anyone on here tried this, or know much about it?

Anyone got a log maker they'd like to sell us?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloyd, are you talking about the manual box type one, with the big lever for compressing the paper?

I had one of them many moons ago. bdooly hard work, and you will need the volume of paper that the average size council's recycling centre skips can accomodate just to make a few logs.

Having said that, they do burn for a long time, throwing out many thousands of BTUs
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had one ages ago, like Gareth said mega hard work and took ages for the logs to dry enough to catch light, plus mine only lasted a few weeks before the lever bent from the force needed to squish the paper into the bricks!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm...that's a bit disappointing. We get given about a dozen newspapers a week, and don't want to waste them. There's only so many that can go into a compost heap.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have one, we got it from CAT (Centre of Alternative Technology) in North Wales (Google it) it cost about 30 if I remember rightly.
I just wait until I have a sackful of newspapers, then tear them into strips, soak them in buckets of water for a few hours or overnight, then load em in and compress the water out, they do take a while to fully dry out if you only have radiators to do the job as I have.
So what I do now is do it when i'm on nights and stack them in an old locker in work.
We use them when camping, as Gareth says they do burn for a long time and are also good for getting the fire started.
The maufacturers say that the average broad sheet is enough to make one brick.
A tip though, dont try to use other types of paper as I did, I have a shreader and used the contenets of that, but the paper dosnt bind together and the bricks fall apart.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spose I could stack them in the airing cupboard, or the loft gets stupidly hot in the summer, then gradually build a stockpile for winter?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used to have one and soaked the strips of paper in an old dustbin.
I seem to remember that we stacked them loosely in the garage for them to dry out. It was time consuming so the fad didn't last long rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only get just enough papers to light the fire.  :-)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so from getting your newspapers together to turning out a log, how long does that take?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you soak the newspaper for a couple of hours then put it in the log maker, that bit should take you about 30 secods, then its just down to drying it, if you have a log burner they should dry out pretty fast on top of that, on our radiators it takes about 3 days, but I dont normally have them on very high. (too tight) :q28:
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, Honky. I'm not put off, except by the purchase price from new, so now looking for a second hand one.  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you not make your own? dont laugh and hear me out.
Do they have to be log shaped? I only ask as I was thinking about this while gazing at my little used cheese press, surly it is the same principle.
if you got a elngth of drain pipe, say 12" long and used a follower and BIG weight, would that not work?
place the drainpipe in a holder on a base and fill to the top with your soaked paper and then pop in a follower and put say 10 kg on top, it could stay there until your next paper mix was ready then push ont and reload and then leave your round logs to dry.
Just a thought
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno. The conventional paper logs look like house bricks. Want to sell me your little used cheese press and I'll give it a try when not making cheese?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the one I have would not do it but im sure a length of down pipe and a few bricks would do it.
also I was thinking about a loaf tin with small holes drilled into it for the water to drain out and loading a shapped follower in the top and a few house bricks on top.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds feasible. This is one for Gareth really. He's already making me a cheese press, and has made some Bradley smoker bisquettes.

I wonder how much pressure is required to extract the water?....Obviously, the more pressure, the faster he process. Maybe improvising with a bottle jack might help?

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