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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: One of the reasons to use your local food heroes !  Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12582056

Wherever there's money involved, there's usually corruption hanging on to its coat tails. I guess that we all supect that cheating sometimes goes on when it comes to the provenance of food described as being locally produced but perhaps not to the extent described in this report.

Whenever you can and if you can afford to, try and use genuine local food suppliers. On the same theme, I don't think that we should be frightened of asking questions to try and verify the claims made by food producers.

The cheats should be named and shamed and prosecuted.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the best bit of doing markets when people ask questions John.  we love it..makes it more interesting for us and we are so proud of our pigs that actually being asked to talk about them is a dream come true rather than our "we're going to tell you about them anyway whether you want to know or not" approach.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've seen your pigs and know what fine lives they lead and how much effort goes into giving them a fantastic life. It must really grate when you hear of people selling meat which claims to be from pigs reared in a similar way to yours, when the truth is nothing like.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, definitely John..one in our market sells "traditionally" reared pork.  Seen their pigs...concrete pens under high roof,no bedding, no shelter, lots of fighting of bored pigs both in their own pens and between the bars between pens, dead one in the corner all bloated....makes me mad but not a lot we can do. Another one sells "home produced" pork but buys it all in - in fact the only thing that is their own is the lamb and that depends on the season...they do their own butchery in their own cutting room so can call it "home produced".....we can only blame the labelling laws in that case really.  In fact that company boats a silver award for their meat...trouble is its all part of an advertising scheme - the more you pay the better the "award" £250 per annum gets you bronze, £500 silver and £1,000 goldaward. not surprisingly the former producer does not answer questions if they can possibly help it and the latter just nods, smiles and agrees to everything you say....you have to stop us producing photographs (well, there are some on the stall anyway) when we get started and many of our regularars have been over for a couple of hours to meet the menagerie in person whereas the two I mention above do not allow visitors which says it all really.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was once asked in the shop I sell eggs in 'how could I guarantee my eggs were really fresh?'. The asker was a holidaymaker....
I took a box of eggs from the shelf (after explaining to the owner that I would replace) and we crackedone open on a plate....and I explained how to spot a fresh egg....and as I was explaining about how soon after laying the eggs were graded and packed....a few other eavesdroppers were removing boxes of eggs and taking them to the till.
I finally said...come and see them, we are only 1 mile away - we really dont mind if you want to come and see the girls - we'll even give you a loan of wellies....
She turned up about an hour later...all the eggs had been sold whilst she was quizzing me and she had to come and get a box from us!
To us local really does mean local, and fresh really does mean fresh!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like lorraine we welcome visitors to come and meet the animals some do some choose not to see what they are going to eat we only sell what has been on the holding and looked after by us we know what they have been feed where the feed has come from usually within a 10 mile radius and milled by us with our old tractor and mill.

although we did have a guy that wanted a whole goat they were all bt's & an's but all brown he insisted he wanted that brown one    whenit was ready in 8 weeks he visited it every week until it went i am almost certain he got his goat but that was in the hands of the butchers.

we also had someone ask for a photo of their pig in with the pork box.

we have a couple of people around her that buy from market just to fill orders then take them to slaughter and sell the meat as home reared    that practice makes my blood boil.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our rear a pig scheme is popular so people knowwhat they are getting - complete with monthloy updates and visitation rights.  Most come to us to butcher their pig too...the ultimate in food provinance if you can't rear your own.  Thinking of extending this to chickens, lambs and possibly goats in the future.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

debbie wrote:
Our rear a pig scheme is popular so people knowwhat they are getting - complete with monthloy updates and visitation rights.  Most come to us to butcher their pig too...the ultimate in food provinance if you can't rear your own.  Thinking of extending this to chickens, lambs and possibly goats in the future.


We thoroughly enjoyed our pig from you debbie, we called her Racquel and still show off the photos!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If ever you  decide to have another Sue, try and make time to come and butcher/make sausages etc.  Is great fun and we would love to see you both again. (do a half day butcher etc as Paul did from here - no charge for regular OTGers if they collect their whole/half pig instead of us doing it for them and sending by courier)

Sorry but to moderate myself...back on topic...

I think a few people in the market may have seen the same article as today we just about sold out taking around 4 times the amount we have usually taken over the last 5 months.....one of aforementioned stalls sold virtually no pork at all and simon said a lot of people were asking questions of everyone and as a bonus someone has signed up for one of our courses - is a local and we will do a two day despoke course on pig and chicken keeping one day and processing the next....decided he wants to rear his own pigs and chickens as he no longer trusts what some are saying ...every cloud and all that    
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We now buy most of our meat (well when we can) from our weekly farmers market, or if I am in Bristol working I also pop to that farmers market as they have a chap selling game.

Always chat to the people behind the stall to find out where they are etc and how local the produce is.

Not needed to get any pork yet however, still got a little bit left from the one we had from Debbie, problem is we are spoilt now, any other pork is not going to taste the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: One of the reasons to use your local food heroes ! Reply with quote

bodger wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12582056

Wherever there's money involved, there's usually corruption hanging on to its coat tails. I guess that we all supect that cheating sometimes goes on when it comes to the provenance of food described as being locally produced but perhaps not to the extent described in this report.

Whenever you can and if you can afford to, try and use genuine local food suppliers. On the same theme, I don't think that we should be frightened of asking questions to try and verify the claims made by food producers.

The cheats should be named and shamed and prosecuted.


Why does this surprise any of us?

We are the minority though aren't we? most people give very little thought to the provenance of anything they buy and the marketing teams get away with far too much, but how do you even begin to police it?

I'm also of the opinion that many Farm shops now play this game - we're all supposed to believe that whatever they sell is locally produced but the economics of that just wouldn't add up. We visited a local garden centre yesterday (to get some ideas for the pond) and they have a shop which claims to specialise in "Local" produce, most of it came from the other end of the country and even outside the UK, but still the yummy mummys were lapping it up.

Reports like this need to be made more prominent - but as you see, the BBC have already "spun" the headline by using the term "seem to suggest" - and there are far too many vested interests at stake to allow very much in the way of exposure to the fibs that we are told about our food.

Just vote with your feet - that's the only thing you can do.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our local so called farn shop is an absolute joke and a bad one at that. There's lots of out of date stock sporting labels from all over the world.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Called into our local farm shop at the w/end....still selling their cabbages, same ones they had in weeks back, smaller than origionally, but well trimed and a damn sight smaller...yet the same price.....

Fresh produce.....yeah !   and my name is sucker.....why did I even bother going in....??????


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