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polaris



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:16 pm    Post subject: Heating  Reply with quote

Recently I've been looking at sustainable and cheap methods of heating my big touring campervan (aka home for the foreseeable future   ) currently we have been using the little gas fire it came with but on top of cooking we are using about 13kg of Calor a week, equal to 30 (OUCH!) we have a little electric fire too but it doesn't heat the place nearly as well and blows the fuses regularly (every 30 mins or so).
Neither of these really bring the van to a nice temperature unless they've been on for hours. This winter is going to be expensive.
We aren't able to put in a log burner due to it not being our van, and the owner won't have a hole put in the wall/roof.
I have been looking at other ways to help take the edge off and came up with the ideas of paraffin and ethanol burners. Our big alladin lamp sheds so much heat it uncomfortable and down low would heat the van marvellously, however paraffin sheds quite a lot of bad stuff too, and is expensive here. I was also looking at tea light heaters as we use one in the greenhouse but do think it would be too many fumes, soot, and low output to cost.

My question is, is there a similar effect we can get using bio-ethanol? A burner with a ceramic shade or something similar, that we could leave on all the time. Bio ethanol is cheap for me to source, renewable and sheds only water and a small amounts of CO2. I'm going to experiment with this and see what I can turn up but just wondered if anyone had come across anything similar? Or had any other ideas? I'm going round tomorrow to properly seal the windows for winter to keep down draughts, well only be using the fan powered vents that we can turn on and off as required, anything that would work for a small room would be ideal.
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polaris



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following this is there any reason a spirit burner could not be placed inside a small clay chimenea, allowing the heat from the burner to be radiated by the clay of the chimenea, then out into the room?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be careful with fumes.
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Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CLAY POT with TEA LIGHTS Room Heating | 4HR DIY T: http://youtu.be/1l4jg_FJ5Yc

Have a look at tea light heaters..
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Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you not take an insulated flue out of a window/skylight of the vehicle then a multifuel stove could be fitted taking into account of course a constructional hearth and suitable precautions against radiant heat..........................Magnet
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Rena



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilsbury wrote:
CLAY POT with TEA LIGHTS Room Heating | 4HR DIY T: http://youtu.be/1l4jg_FJ5Yc

Have a look at tea light heaters..


Thank you! I knew this had been mentioned in another post from a while back....(remembering where? You've sorted my need to look)! Can you remember what was recommended to use in cooking for those of us totally dependent on power? (In case of power outage).
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Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was an upright log with a cross cut in the top and a hole drilled bug enough to hold a tealight, the log caught fire in the drilled hole and you can rest a pan on the top of the log to cook on but I can't remember the name of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember that one....but only because it is highly unrealistic in sub zero temps like what we get (which is usually the case when we lose power). Thought I remembered something about a 'portable burner plate' type set up with an attachable can of fuel??
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rena Bar B Que   to be used outside or gas one inside with plenty of fresh air.     We have a wood burner stove and a geny so when the wind blows we are O.K.


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