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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: An OTG Film Section.  Reply with quote

Having seen this thread started by Ladyslip, I was set to thinking.

http://overthegate.myfreeforum.org/about23565.html

Do you think that a section containing short instructional films made by OTG members would work and be useful?
I'm hopeless at anything remotely technical but I'm thinking of home made video 'You Tube' type films made by our members, rather than any old clip simply picked up off the internet. The content could be on just about anything, chickens, cookery, crafts, hunting, anything as long as its in keeping with the spirit of OTG.

So as a techno idiot, my next question to you, is how do we go about it? What do we need to do and what equipment would members need?

As a bye product if we could get some good films on the forum and if reference was made somewhere on it to OTG, then this could also be a good way of making more people aware of the community we have here.

So what do you think? Its time for people to throw their hat into the ring and put forward their ideas and possible concerns.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a great idea,although as a techno idiot I have no constructive suggestions about detail. I watched a you tube[I think] download by BrownBear who used to post on another site showing step by step sausage making instructions which was so much better than anything I could get from a book---even the linking instructions became plain.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm! I have thought about this, and all though it is a fabulous idea I think that it could possibly be a double edged sword.


However!

May I suggest a compromise.

Make a dual posting of any video with a direct link to the mother thread in much the same style and structure as the current OTG recipe book.

We have a wealth of knowledge and experience shared here on OTG, but excellent posts have become hidden in the archives by the mists of time ...... the information is there but is not looked for because viewers may not be aware of the forum search facility.

I believe that direct link short cut access to some of the older postings and projects will actually stimulate the forum's existing members, and encourage new members to join up and participate.

For Example: Last week a new member's first post on OTG commented upon my now approaching 4 years old " Making a Ferret box" thread. Bodger, DEGSY and myself made additional comments to this thread. Rather than just resurrecting this old posting and bringing to the fore, it has stimulated me into evolving the original concept, make something new, improved, better and possibly more convenient to use, and then to add this as a separate and new additional photo step-by-step project.


I am actually prepared to volunteer the time necessary to administer and manage this possible new video section, along with the OTG Recipe book and member projects.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really on topic, but Gareth has made me realise that I, for one, do not use this place to its full potential  
I do use the search facility but I never think to look in Recipes, for example.
I think a rainy day spent rooting around in here is called for  

Back to the original topic, and I think it's a wonderful idea but I wouldn't know how to start a contribution of my own - not that I think I know anything that anyone else here doesn't already know, and probably better than me anyway.

It would be wonderful if people would be prepared to do this though.

(Now I'm wondering what I do contribute, apart from waffle)  
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see where the double edged sword comes into things Gareth. That implies that having some useful clips on here might in some way be to the detriment of the forum. I'm not sure how that might be. If we can  get some decent stuff posted, then in my opinion it can only benefit members and be for the good of the forum.

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bodger wrote:
I can't see where the double edged sword comes into things Gareth. That implies that having some useful clips on here might in some way be to the detriment of the forum. I'm not sure how that might be.



What I meant to say and did not, is that although videos are an excellent way to show how a project evolves, sometimes a crucial bit can be left out, missed or obscured by other in shot activity leaving the viewer confused, and wondering how to complete that particular step.

I see and use video as an addtional tool to accompany written words and photographs.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Videos wouldn't be instead of posts but would be in addition to them. I really can't see a problem. Lets see if we can get this thing going and be positive towards what hopefully should be an exciting development.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bodger wrote:
Videos wouldn't be instead of posts but would be in addition to them.


I did not read it that way in your original post, but envisioned the written word and photographs being replaced short video clips.

I love to read the write ups, and especially some of the humor that is incorporated. Example: Butterbean's recycling Peaches .... his sense of humor came through to the point of tears of laughter rolling down my face .... something that could not be done in video
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: An OTG Film Section. Reply with quote

bodger wrote:
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So as a techno idiot, my next question to you, is how do we go about it? What do we need to do and what equipment would members need?



Back to the main question on the table.

Most compact digital cameras with a resolution of 2 Mega Pixels or more will have a video function. The length of film that you can shoot is dictated by the size of memory card.

However, compact digital cameras tend to store the video as a very large file, which may exceed the upload limits to both YouTube and photobucket. Recently I shot a vid of 2 minutes long with my compact  camera, and the files size was was in excess of 1 gigabyte, this took ages to down load to, and eventually timed out by both YouTube and Photobucket.

I have a High definition digital camcorder with a 20 gigabyte internal memory that will store up to 9 hours of video in HD, 14 hours in standard definition, and up to 20 hours in low resolution. This camcorder also has an additional SD memory card slot and USB port, so continual shooting can be directly filmed to to these to extend recording times and to transfer files.

Lois & I re-shot this 2 minute video in HD with my camcorder, and the file size was only 289 mega bytes. This was my recent Barclay's bank competition entry video, and the file size set down by them was 300 MB. This video uploaded to both YouTube and photo bucket in less than 5 minutes.

Both Camcorders and digital cameras are suitable for shooting short clear definetion videos, but be prepared for long upload times and posible repeated attempts if PB or YT time out on you.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see what other members think about the idea.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great idea I love to watch things being done as then I feel I can see each step moving into place, if as Gareth said I missed a part I can ask also rewatch it
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good idea but when your internet speed is slower than a three legged tortoise then it can be frustrating missing out on stuff!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea is brilliant but from what I heard from other forum owners is that movies on a forum tend to make the entire forum slow. If 10 members are watching movies at the same time the data traffic over the forum becomes huge.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that still the case if members put their films onto You Tube and our members just click on the link to view?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant Idea - says she who can barely post a photograph - but no idea on the techy stuff.  Talking of not knowing what I am talking about would it work if the clip was stored somewhere like photobucket - even if OTG had its own account that members could down load to, then a link from the usual written post on the forum to the video clip?  would save too much "stuff" slowing the board down, would be optional for those with slow broadband and admin could have a certain amount of control too.  Even I once managed to download a video clip of simon doing a dressage test on Georgie Girl to photobucket that had been stored in "our pictures" on our computer.

As I said no idea what I am talking about but a place to start maybe??


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